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Old 25-01-2014, 13:37   #1
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Trolling setup

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I just bought two standup rods (20-30lb and 40-60lb) for trolling during my europe-caribbean roundtrip. Now I'm looking at reels to fit those rods. I've mostly been looking at penn reels 3/0, 4/0 and 6/0, because I don't have any experience with trolling or bigg ame fishing (avid freshwater fisherman though). Would a setup with those rods and reels work for your average offshore trolling needs? Obviously bigger is better, but would a 3/0 suffice for instance? The plan is to fill them up with 50lb monofilament and not to fish for anything too ginormous, but then again you don't always have a say in that .

What are the other big names in that marketsegment and what models of those brands compete with the aforementioned penns?

I should also mention that I'll be buying second hand. Hence my interest in the penns as their older models have marvellous reputations.
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:36   #2
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Re: Trolling setup

I like Avet and Shimano I own both and several Penn International 50's I think the Avet 50 is really good, I think it is easier to handle, maybe lighter. I have had to get the drag repaired on the Shimano.
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:41   #3
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I use the same rig my grandfather did 70 years ago, a Penn Senator. Called now the 114.
Tough, foolproof, and only cost a hundred bucks so you don't cry when you lose it.
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:43   #4
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Re: Trolling setup

So avet 50 is comparable? And what are the similar models in the shimano line? Obviously pann internationals are the best, but a tad pricey .

And how do you think the 3/0, 4/0 or 6/0 (models 112. 113 and 114) suit this sort of fishing?
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:51   #5
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The 114 is the biggest for about the same price. It will hold 500 yd of 50 lb test. Get also some heavy braided wire leaders. I pull only cedar plugs or spoons. Eyes, skirts, and other plastic stuff fall off after an hour or so.
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:53   #6
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Remember also, the bigger the hook, the bigger the fish.
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Old 25-01-2014, 14:56   #7
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Re: Trolling setup

the topic tricked me.
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Old 25-01-2014, 15:05   #8
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Re: Trolling setup

Looks my setup worked then eh . Not quite the fish I was hoping for though...

Are you having much luck with the plugs/spoons? Is the braided leader for anything in particular? I was considering using 80lb mono as leader...

Also, is 500yd plenty? Do you ever really need all of it? Something else I was considering is using 100-200yd of mono at the end and have braided spectra as the first section of line on the reel. More line, and still 200yd of mono to take care of the shocks that bigger fish cause.
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Old 25-01-2014, 15:17   #9
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All offshore fish have big, sharp teeth that cut right through mono. You don't need to fool them like freshwater fish, they eat anything that moves. I fish 50 to 80 yd back. Get as much line as you can on the spool. Fish will lop it off in 30 yd hunks. Have a couple of plastic do-nuts for closer in.
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How 'bout your luck with spoons and cedar plugs? You make a good point with the plastic falling off, but that type of lure was what I was hoping to get a whole collection of .
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In the package they look like the things the fish eat. One good strike will tear up the gel. The plugs will get teeth marks that you can sand down and spray paint. Also, buy loose hooks, a spool of leader wire, collars and swivels(big ones) to make or repair your equipment.
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I have good luck trolling plastic tubing with good sized hook yellow or green, they seem to love it(sometimes)
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Agree wholeheartedly about the wire and swivels.
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Re: Trolling setup

FWIW, we use a bunch of Penn 330 GTi2 reels for trolling the Chesapeake. These probably aren't suitable for 300-lb tuna or jumping billfish... but they do nicely for dinner.

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Assuming you have your rod and reel set up, add a good, detachable, rod holder, and a piece of strong cord with a clip on each end to attach the reel to the boat. Have a few plugs, and spoons, chrome or silver, about 4in long with a treble hook well attached to the spoon. Wsulli had a good idea about the tubing, slide a 1ft piece up the wire leader. A short gaff and a pair of canvas gloves and there you go.
What to do when you catch the fish is another story.
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