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Old 27-08-2010, 03:47   #16
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I've got a Ray Oder aluminum travel spear. Works great, FWIW, and stows easily in my cockpit storage boxes.

After a month or so of daily use on our Bahamas cruise, I wanted to change out the flopper shank for the paralyzer tip. . . . Only to find that the threads had become seized up by corrosion and salt. I worked at it with two pairs of pliers for a long time, and couldn't unscrew it. Finally, once back on shore, I used penetrating oil and it came apart easily.

All of which is to say, when you screw in your spear tip, dab the threads with a little anti-seize, or a bit of grease. Might save you trouble down the road. . . .
I second the recommendation on a Ray Odor travel polespear. Solid piece of gear that will last you for a lifetime of cruising. Great to bring in the dinghy cause you never know when you will find that awesome hole full of fish.

He also sells an inexpensive powerhead type device which is a good item to have for safety.

As far as the thread issue, I use teflon tape, and it works like a charm.

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Old 27-08-2010, 06:11   #17
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That's exactly what I got. 6' fiberglass with a 3 prong and a single tip.
Consider also buying a box of spare barbs, which you need a soldering iron to insert. At the least get a spare heavy duty barb attachment. Then a spare rubber is a must. The knot they use is a simple cloth hitch. Otherwise, you can expect the thing to sh&t itself the first time you find fish, which coincidentally using the pole is most often hunting under rock shelves and in caves where you also have a chance of finding lobsters and abalone.
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I really like my JBL one piece. I have a few glass ones of different weights and band strength. I find them a bit too floppy and weak for larger fish. But the JBL seems the most versatile for me from Hog fish to even a few Dolphin now and then. But pole spears are like anchors, many times it is the first one you get used to that you'll swear by. The balance of length, speed, weight, and strength of the pole spear will vary from person to person. The nice thing is that they are cheap enough to buy a few and test them out to find what works best for you for what you intend to hunt. The tips, which really become the larger expense, are interchangeable. I also use a few Hawaiian slings. The best are the simple wood dowel ones. You can change bands easily to accommodate pull. The fancier ones are a waste of money in my opinion.
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Old 27-08-2010, 14:55   #19
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I But pole spears are like anchors, many times it is the first one you get used to that you'll swear by..,,,, The tips, which really become the larger expense, are interchangeable. I also use a few Hawaiian slings. The best are the simple wood dowel ones. You can change bands easily to accommodate pull. The fancier ones are a waste of money in my opinion.
To be honest, I use guns and always have. However, I keep to the same philosophy about simplicity and spares. The other thing I always see in Australia is the people who go out straight away and buy a big cumbersome gun. In my opinion you are much better starting out with a pole spear which will really teach you to stalk fish and look in all the right places. These are basic skills a lot of those people swimming around with huge guns looking all rambo often miss. (Maybe big guns are like red sports cars?)

So many people buy guns thinking they are like riffles where you take these big shots out in the open. This might be true in bluewater hunting, but even using guns I find 95% plus of the time I am swimming around with my 90 cm model. Like a pole spear it is manoeuvrable able and can get into caves where some good eating fish are hiding. I have still been able to land a couple of 30 kg mulloway (equivalent white sea bass) with the “little” gun. As above it has more to do with learning to stalk and getting in a kill shot than the shape or size of your phallic symbol (similar might also be said for small boat ownership?).
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Consider also buying a box of spare barbs, which you need a soldering iron to insert. At the least get a spare heavy duty barb attachment.
Where? Of all the dive shops I've been in and dive shop websites I've been on, I've never seen just barbs before.

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Then a spare rubber is a must. The knot they use is a simple cloth hitch.
Just any old latex surgical tubing, right? Mabe just pick up a roll of the stuff?

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which coincidentally using the pole is most often hunting under rock shelves and in caves where you also have a chance of finding lobsters and abalone.
Except unfortuntaely many place don't allow catching lobster while spearing.
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Where? Of all the dive shops I've been in and dive shop websites I've been on, I've never seen just barbs….,,,,,


First step is to just get in the water and give it a go. If you enjoy yourself either get an entire spare heavy duty head or can buy individual barbs in boxes sometimes even at fishing tackle shops being sold for crab spears. It is an unfortunate fact that just when you start to master the pole the barbs will become bent beyond repair and start to fall out.

Just any old latex surgical tubing, right? Maybe just pick up a roll of the stuff?

I would go to a dive shop that specialises in spear fishing gear where you can by the stuff by the inch or foot. For instance over here in Australia we have adrenaline spear fishing http://www.spearfishing.com.au/

Likewise, all rubbers deteriorate eventually, Strangely enough most of the ones that come with the cheaper poles and the ready made replacements die fastest, but the stuff from better dive shops lasts a lot lot longer. To tie the knot you will probably already have similar diameter cord on the boat or get a few metres from the chandlery and just follow the old set-up if possible.

The good thing is that you can learn to make your own rubbers you can adjust them to the exact power and stretch you find preferable (not to mention cost savings even if it is just by shortening the rubbers as they give around the knot).

Except unfortuntaely many place don't allow catching lobster while spearing.

The real point is that when looking under the ledges etc for fish you are likely to find lobsters. It is illegal to spear them over here in NSW. Instead, if necessary just use the pole to push them to an end of the cave where they are accessible and pick them up by hand as is legal. Don’t get sucked into buying expensive neoprene diving gloves for this purpose as they just don’t last. Most cheap durable gloves will do.
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Over here you're only allowed to hand catch too. But I'm pretty sure you're still not allowed to bag bugs and spear on the same dive.
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Over here you're only allowed to hand catch too. But I'm pretty sure you're still not allowed to bag bugs and spear on the same dive.
You are allowed to do both on the same dive, but you are not allowed to catch bugs with speargun. Bugs must be alive/intact until you get to shore in case size, and method of capture needs to be verified.
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That's good to know, since I'm heading down that way, but I'm pretty sure in NJ you can't.
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Keep the latex speargun bands in a sealed container such as a ziplock bag when not in use and they'll last a lot longer. Same goes for rubber bands.
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