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Old 22-02-2013, 03:00   #31
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Re: Scuba Charter from SailBoat?

Running a global dive charter operation would be expensive and require a lot of knowledge (making sh#t up as you go along only works so far). Given your position I would reign in my ambitions and would split the venture into 2 parts.

1. get a yacht for sailing RTW, for only you and the girlfreind. No scuba diving charters means the boat will be cheaper to buy and run (the money saved would probably pretty much get you RTW!). and use it as your base (cheap accomadation) to make money elsewhere.

2. make money - not going to make a great deal of cash working for someone else as a divemaster, but if you are willing to settle on free diving and food on the table (with the potential for more, now and again?) then that cuts down your costs....the bonus is that you get to learn the business hands on (always different than the theory or as a punter) and without betting the farm. Always cheaper to get someone else to pay for your learning curve! (just because you are only doing a muppet job does not mean you can't also learn the stuff above your pay grade!).

Whilst won't be terribly legal , always the chance of running the odd dive charter from your boat, albeit only at beer money (plus?) prices - whilst a compressor would be nice, probably find that simply stocking up on tanks would be the workaround for occassional use........if you need more money make sure you spend time in some places where you can work ashore, ideally legally as it pays more (just because you arrive on a boat don't mean that your job has to involve them).

Once you have finished your RTW trip (or as much as you fancy) - will be in a far better position to decide whether to proceed with your original plan, albeit likely at that point you will understand for self why not to....on the upside likely will also have come up with other ideas / adventures....
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Old 22-02-2013, 08:26   #32
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Re: Scuba Charter from SailBoat?

David, considering some of the stories about accidents these days, and at least when Americans are involved, the resulting lawsuits, would you want to take out the random Jo Diver who was looking for a casual cash-money boat ride on an unlicensed boat in some resort destination?

I ask, seriously, because I have always had questions about training and safety, and year after year I don't see either improving although I confess I stopped looking at stats and don't survey "the industry".

There's one agency at least locally joked about as the "certificate of the month club", which gets a lot of folks certified. And wants them to do separate additional classes for their compass, or speargun, or flashlight, or non-standard tank color. OK, maybe I'm exagerating about tank color but when I heard one of their instructors talking about the "loober line" on a compass instead of the lubber line, I didn't know whether to crack up laughing or barf in a bag.

And another agency now finally offering (online) certifications in solo diving. A hot-button topic, but DAN and the USCG long ago noted that divers die in pairs, the buddy system seems to accomplish dual kills as often as it accomplishes saves.

Couple of years ago some woman drowned off Hawaii in a basic shallow dive. Last I heard, apparently her BC (probably rental) didn't inflate, she panicked (panic training/screening was last practiced by NASDS while the rest of the industry rejected it) and forgot how to ditch her weight, drowned in shallow water and of course her estate sued everyone in sight. So picking folks up without having the framework of legal business and insurance carries a real risk with SCUBA.

SCUBA off the radar? There's possibly more profit and less risk if you run a floating whorehouse and casino. Just a thought.
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Old 22-02-2013, 08:52   #33
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David, considering some of the stories about accidents these days, and at least when Americans are involved, the resulting lawsuits, would you want to take out the random Jo Diver who was looking for a casual cash-money boat ride on an unlicensed boat in some resort destination?
Short answer is - yes, I would. (no plans to though).

I understand what you are saying, and getting butt sued off is certainly a consideration (as well as any criminal angle!) - but it's a risk vs reward judgement.

BTW I was not thinking about loading up with half a dozen divers on a regular basis (with the required publicity to acheive that), simply one or 2 onboard now and again - perhaps on a "shared expenses" basis (plus a bit!) for the boat trip only, and if they want to use the gear onboard (including the SCUBA) then that up to them. Might not prevent my ass being in a sling, but means I could claim not to be selling SCUBA diving trips - up to others whether I am beleived or not!


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SCUBA off the radar? There's possibly more profit and less risk if you run a floating whorehouse and casino. Just a thought.
Am not sure about a floating casino, but there is a thread about the former.........
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Old 22-02-2013, 09:06   #34
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I'm fine with good food, good friends and better drink. I didn't think it would be so difficult to make $36,000 a year while owning and operating a sail/dive business and its so damn important to me, it's my dream.

Down here in Grenada, and generally the Leewards and Windwards, $36,000 a year is A LOT of money. 40% unemployment!!! You would be rich. Like said above, get a job at a local shop and learn the trade. Then maybe buy an established shop.
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Re: Scuba Charter from SailBoat?

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You hit the nail on the head. Go to the oil patch and fill the sillows with cash. $100,000K+ in 6 months isnt nothing to sneaze at my friend. Little short term pain for long term gain. You have an exciting dream that it will become reality but you have to have some patience which is hard at 20. I know. Went through it 25 years ago. But I did it and have never looked back. The sailboats, diving, Caribe will always be there waiting for you. You will have a much better time working for a year or two and putting all that cash in the bank. Then you will have more than most on this forum. Adjust your thinking and you will be rewarded.
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Re: Scuba Charter from SailBoat?

From a sailor and an old commercial oil field diver....we call your ideas "blue skying". The responsibilities you are proposing to undertake are considerable and will require significant consideration, planning, experience and $$$ on your part!
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