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Old 24-09-2014, 23:08   #1
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Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

I tried searching for this but no luck.

Anyone know of a portable dive compressor (to fill tanks) that can be run off a Honda 2000eu Companion portable generator - commercial compressor or home built? I am kind of assuming they arent powerful enough but just in case someone has solved this...

We are headed to some great dive spots next year, remote, and would love to have one aboard. If not with the Honda we will start looking at gas models.
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Old 25-09-2014, 04:50   #2
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

Someone in our marina removed the 220 motor and installed a 110 motor on a bauer compressor. Ill see if I can find the amps, it does take about 15 to 20 min o fill a tank

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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

The Bauer Jr is probably your best bet, I've always heard it takes a 5KW min generator to run one though, but I do not have one so I'm not sure.
I think you'll end up having to go to one with it's own engine.
Be very careful, I would recommend a CO tester if your filling your own tanks, they aren't that expensive, are very small and lightweight and are very easy to operate.
Take spare air filters and extra of the special oil a breathing air compressor requires.
It might not hurt to take a class on compressing breathing air, bet you can even get a book if a class is not available
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Old 25-09-2014, 13:26   #4
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

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Someone in our marina removed the 220 motor and installed a 110 motor on a bauer compressor. Ill see if I can find the amps, it does take about 15 to 20 min o fill a tank

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Old 25-09-2014, 13:37   #5
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

As far as I know, no. We have a Coltri compressor here at work and it's driven by an 11 HP motor. That's somewhere north of 8 kW before conversion losses. It also takes about 25 minutes to fill a pair of AL 80 bottles.

I'll second the CO monitor. It's not just nice, it's a necessity.

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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

The Bauer jr uses a 1.5kw electric motor so it can probably just barely run on the 2kw honda which is rated at 1.6kw continuious. But frankly I wouldn't want to push it this hard for as long as it would take to fill multiple tanks. I would much rather go with a gas version.
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

The little Honda is 1.8KW at 60 cycles I think, and it's noisy running that hard, but I think it will do it all day long without harm
The little Bower is really only 1500 Watts?
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

Does it make sense to run a generator to power an electric motor to turn the compressor? Have you considered a belt driven set up off the engine to the compressor? You could eliminate the generator and the electric motor and the electrical losses. ( just thinking out loud)
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

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The Bauer jr uses a 1.5kw electric motor so it can probably just barely run on the 2kw honda which is rated at 1.6kw continuious. But frankly I wouldn't want to push it this hard for as long as it would take to fill multiple tanks. I would much rather go with a gas version.
Thanks for that...it is pretty close so I wonder if it would pop the Honda on the start up surge. Probably the only way to know is to find someone who has tried it or try one ourselves.

The reason to consider the non gas version is we already have, stow and use the Honda so it would be nice to have a smaller compressor set up without the motor. But...obviously it has to work.
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Does it make sense to run a generator to power an electric motor to turn the compressor? Have you considered a belt driven set up off the engine to the compressor? You could eliminate the generator and the electric motor and the electrical losses. ( just thinking out loud)
If we were starting from scratch you are probably right but we have the Honda already (which I didnt say) and use it for our Seamaker watermaker among other things.
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

I'm thinking the 1.5 KW is a measure of the power output of the compressor, not it's electrical draw, plus I've never seen a 110V dive compressor, but I don't see many portables either, but the few I've seen are 220.
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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

Wow - according to this site, for the Bauer Junior:
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while the minimum for the 3HP machines is 7.5kw
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I tried searching for this but no luck.

Anyone know of a portable dive compressor (to fill tanks) that can be run off a Honda 2000eu Companion portable generator - commercial compressor or home built? I am kind of assuming they arent powerful enough but just in case someone has solved this...

We are headed to some great dive spots next year, remote, and would love to have one aboard. If not with the Honda we will start looking at gas models.
Hi

Recently went through the same exercise and couldn't find one. All recommendations pointed to the Bauer. Had a look at petrol one and quite heavy and bulky for our boat unless we stored on deck. The Honda wouldn't run it so it meant a bigger Genset if we went electric.

We have deferred our purchase for a while but when I did the sums, we were better off with a hookah type unit (PowerSnorkel | Powerdive) and maybe tanks for filling elsewhere when possible. A small compressor unit which could run off the Honda though would be ideal for us.

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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

I have a Bauer Junior II. It runs on 240 volt at home and draws 2.2 kW. Therefore, a 2 kW generator cannot possibly run it. Further, the start up requirement of the compressor is much higher. I have tried running on a 5 kW generator and that only just turned it over. However, a 4 kW petrol motor will run it. I have just acquired the petrol motor so that we can take our compressor away next year on our first big trip to the Great Barrier Reef.

There used to be a smaller Bauer that might have been able to run on a small generator, but I doubt it.

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Re: Honda 2000 and a dive compressor?

Neither the small 120 VAC Bauer Junior II or the 115 VAC Coltri MCH6 will run on your generator. Starting draw is usually about three times the running draw and we are looking at about 20-29 amps on these guys.

Your best bet is to just get a gas version. And, by putting a snorkel on the inlet of the compressor, you can place the suction filter high away from the engine exhaust so you are compressing just ambient air. Plus, at least with all the gas compressors I sell, the filters are outfitted with CO scrubbers.
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