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Old 26-10-2015, 22:10   #1
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Holding a Wake Aboard

As we reach that stage in life having spent the vast majority of it afloat, it seems that a sheet of canvas with a piece of chain or shot sewn into the foot end and the closing stitch on the canvas shroud would naturally include a pass through my nose to ensure I was truly ready to meet my maker before being slid silently over the side is a time honored end to all of us who hold the sea dear to our hearts. Once the deed is done, an uproariously appropriate party should commence aboard lasting as long as the revellers feel is enough to send the recently departed on his way in style.
Where does one go to make these final arrangement and pay for them?
I used to do burial at sea services years ago inVancouver, Canada but understand the practice is no longer permitted near many built up areas. All of them where cremations and the ashes were spread at sea.
Any thoughts on who or where this time honored events can be accomplished?
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Old 26-10-2015, 22:19   #2
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

My father has prepaid cremation services which can include burial at sea for civilians from the Neptune society. Neptune Society - America's Trusted Cremation Provider since 1973
Myself will be turned over to the navy after cremation for burial at sea. If I don't die as my lil ship sinks.
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Old 26-10-2015, 23:08   #3
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I used to do burial at sea services years ago inVancouver, Canada but understand the practice is no longer permitted near many built up areas. ....
Its them 'no-wake' zones that are the problem.....
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Its them 'no-wake' zones that are the problem.....

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Do it the Viking way. Take your vessel with you.

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Old 27-10-2015, 05:17   #6
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

I know spreading of ashes is permitted or maybe just ignored I don't know, (I spread my Mother's ashes at a lake at her house) but believe actual burial at sea is more difficult.
I believe several countries still do allow it, but have some strict guidelines like water depth?
So, are you talking actual burial at sea or spreading of ashes?
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Old 27-10-2015, 09:01   #7
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

I was checked this for myself last year. The US regulations are fairly simple, deep water, document sinking, report location to USCG. However, the undertaker lobby has built in some inconvenient hoops to jump through at the Medical Examiner's office. Expect to be hosed if an undertaker is involved in any way.
Bottom line, if not cremated first it will take some persistence but is doable.
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

It all depends where you are for spreading of ashes:
In Ontario you may:

1. buy rights to bury or scatter the cremated remains in a registered cemetery
2. buy rights to place the cremated remains in a niche within a columbarium in a registered cemetery. (A columbarium is an above-ground structure that contains a number of niches. Placing the cremated remains in a niche is an interment, meaning a burial)
3. scatter cremated remains on private property with the consent of the land owner (if a land owner wants to allow repeated scatterings to take place on a specific piece of his or her property, he or she must establish that land as a cemetery and have a licensed cemetery operator for the cemetery)
4. sign a contract with the licensed operator of a cemetery, crematorium, funeral home or transfer service to scatter the cremated remains on your behalf
5. scatter cremated remains on Crown land, including land covered by water, if its unoccupied (e.g., provincial park, conservation reserve, Great Lakes) and there are no signs or postings that prohibit scattering
6. scatter cremated remains on municipally-owned lands (contact the municipality to check if there are by-laws that prohibit scattering in certain areas such as municipal parks)
7. transport cremated remains out of Ontario

I prefer 5 myself.
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

An old friend of mine who passed away many years ago was cremated and a couple of us stuffed his ashes in the barrel of the Nine O'clock gun in Stanley Park in Vancouver before they fenced the gun enclosure in with wire. You might say he 'went out with a bang'! His wife, #3 at the time, thought it was hilarious. We had a toast to him off Discovery Island in the Harbour aboard his old boat.
For those of you who are non-PNW's, the Nine O'clock gun is a fixture in Vancouver Harbour they fire off at 9:00 pm every evening. Hope they still do! Phil
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Re: Holding a Wake Aboard

We just spread grandma out this way outside San Diego Harbor. She was a big part of the SD sailing scene. It was a wonderful send off for all concerned. Just take care that you judge the wind appropriately. Ashes better than the body as a whole. Don't mind the seagulls carrying away the bigger bits. It's good closure for all and any excuse to be with family on the water is way good in my book.
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I know spreading of ashes is permitted or maybe just ignored I don't know, (I spread my Mother's ashes at a lake at her house) but believe actual burial at sea is more difficult.
I believe several countries still do allow it, but have some strict guidelines like water depth?
So, are you talking actual burial at sea or spreading of ashes?
My brother, nephew and I launched an urn, made for that off a fishing pier on an out going tide. Who would know what we did with Mom. If I still lived in the cold country, they could throw my ashes on an icy sidewalk so nobody slipped. See, he finally did something good.
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@Capt Phil:

You been away a while :-)!

Brother-in-law built an "Ingrid" from scratch at HMCS Discovery (i.e. on Dead Man's Island). No idea what he had to do for his CO to get permission to do that! But when all is said and done, the RCN is a pretty humane outfit, so maybe it wasn't so hard ;-).

Do you by any chance remember that?

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Do what you want.
Don't invite any cops.
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Do what you want.

Don't invite any cops.

Exactly
My dads ashes are scattered near a west coast island and my mum will join him when her time comes. We didn't ask anyone for permission.


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