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16-12-2017, 05:49
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Registered User
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Location: Great Lakes, Ontario
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Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
ooks = books
I was just curious if anyone has any links or suggestions to guides or books for offshore fishing? I've been fishing down in the Florida keys a couple times and amongst the great lakes. Didn't have much luck in the keys at all.
I know some of the fish in the Pacific but I'm unfamiliar with the ones more common to catch. More so what tackle, bait etc to use. Line strength and rod suggestions. I'm sure an avid search of a hundred webpages on Google could give me some insight. But I thought I would ask here first.
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16-12-2017, 06:37
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: USVI
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re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott & Wendy Bannerot. THE best resource for cruisers. Will answer all of your questions re: line strength, gear and baits.
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16-12-2017, 07:57
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Location: W Carib
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
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Originally Posted by PapaLulu
The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott & Wendy Bannerot. THE best resource for cruisers. Will answer all of your questions re: line strength, gear and baits.
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+1. The bible for fishing from a cruising boat.
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16-12-2017, 08:48
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Registered User
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
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Originally Posted by PapaLulu
The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott & Wendy Bannerot. THE best resource for cruisers. Will answer all of your questions re: line strength, gear and baits.
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Thank you!
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16-12-2017, 08:54
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Location: puget sound washington
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
Yoyo's , 2oz lead weight , 50lb or heavier main line and best to use a 2ft braided wire leader. A #2hook and pink plastic squid . ( have found various colors do work just pink seems to be beast for tuna in my area)
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16-12-2017, 09:29
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
on my morning watches in gom i would see what the fish were hungry for--sometimes it was silver, sometimes dorado colored and sometimes flying fish colored.
i broke 3 rods in gom on fishes too large for the situation and divers -- donot allow fishie under your boat. it will escape causing you not only loss of dinner potential but money as something will break.
i learned to use no equipment other than the line and lure with leader, and hand over hand retrieval of fishie which breathes air instead of water hence is dinner not gone.
best of luck. each technique has pros and cons and fishies donot answer the call when placed. you must ignore em so they come to you.
i tie my fishline to my aft shrouds on my ketch and have a slip knot where i can readily see it. when slipknot loop gone, fish on and fun starts. donot let fishie drag as sharks and larger fishies will destroy your well earned dinner.
ps fishies donot bite between 11 am and 5 pm, i also learned. doesnot matter how hard ye try.
fishing at anchor is different from fishing while sailing. but they still donot bite between 11 and 5, only hardhead catfish do that. even my feline would not eat those.
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17-12-2017, 08:34
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
There is only 1 and now you know it.
It’s not only the Bible of Fish. It’s also a good read! Seriously!
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17-12-2017, 09:15
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
There are times when sailing in blue water that you can't keep the fish off the hook. The problem is that a dorado or tuna bigger than 15 pounds or so is tough to get landed and is so much meat that it can be a challenge to get it all 'et. For this reason I troll smallish pink feathers/jigs to avoid hooking the larger fish. An interesting excercise is to troll a "teaser" or two (large lure without a hook) twenty feet or so behind the boat: you'll attract largish fish like sailfish and marlin. You can pull the teaser in and the aroused billfish will come right up to the transom all "lit up" and flailing at the teaser. It's a satisfying way to see these beauties up close without killing them.
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17-12-2017, 09:30
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: sailing south
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
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Originally Posted by akprb
There is only 1 and now you know it.
It’s not only the Bible of Fish. It’s also a good read! Seriously!
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Yup. The best fish soup method ever, too.
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17-12-2017, 09:39
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: sailing south
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
> Yoyo's , 2oz lead weight , 50lb or heavier main line and best to use a 2ft braided wire leader.
FWIW, when I drag both a handline and an actual rod/reel simultaneously, I get a comparable number of bites, but land three times more fish on the rod/reel setup. By the aforementioned book - a kilometer of 50# line on an old-school Penn Senator.
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17-12-2017, 10:53
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Plymouth, UK
Boat: 38ft cedar-strip custom design
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
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17-12-2017, 11:38
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
We, too, have the Bannerot book. I especially liked the diagram for cutting up tuna. Ryban, you will have to discard a lot of meat if you catch a big pelagic fish and have little room to store it. Pickling is one way to preserve the flesh, and you can store it un-refrigerated.
To a certain extent, fish lures are made to lure humans to buying them. We had as good luck on various colored "squid" lures which were really octopus lures--go figure--and even the very small ones get taken, as we did on the double skirted jet heads and cedar plugs. We learned to use a wire leader, 'cause the wahoo will chop right through nylon.
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23-12-2017, 12:44
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
> a dorado or tuna bigger than 15 pounds or so is tough to get lande
Not much of a problem with the rig recommended in the aforementioned "Fishing for Cruisers" book. Namely, a short heavy rod with a kilometer of 50lb mono line on a reel that can take all that drag.
Eating it all afterwards is a problem, indeed. In an anchorage with a few more boats, I never had a problem giving away some tuna or dorado fillet. On a passage, we just stop fishing.
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23-12-2017, 14:30
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Location: USVI
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
Agree with the wire leader. You never know what you’re going to hook.
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23-12-2017, 14:37
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Re: Any guides or books on offshore fishing?
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a dorado or tuna bigger than 15 pounds or so is tough to get landed
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True, dat. We'd drag them along till they got tired. Didn't have a rod and reel, and it was not sport fishing, we dragged a meat hook, and mostly landed them, on a large yoyo. The boat did the fishing, and we caught whoever got interested in the lure.
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