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Old 21-03-2014, 06:39   #586
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Re: ALL IS LOST: The Movie

Well I can offer some reassurance to those worried that their significant other will watch this movie, become terrified of sailing and subsequently insist that we sell the boat.

My wife caught the movie on a flight back from Hong Kong where she was travelling solo for work, so I was not there to run interference and prevent her from seeing anything that would scare her.

I was dismayed when she told me she'd seen it, prepared for the worst. But, in her words, "he's a bloody idiot". She reckoned He didn't know a thing about boats and the only thing she took away from the movie was not to sail with people who don't know a thing about boats!

Of course, I have to admit she has not been out with me on the boat since.... But I am hoping it just because of the weather.

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I was dismayed when she told me she'd seen it, prepared for the worst. But, in her words, "he's a bloody idiot". She reckoned He didn't know a thing about boats and the only thing she took away from the movie was not to sail with people who don't know a thing about boats!

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And this is exactly why I keep hammering away for people to read the book Adrift, 76 Days Lost at Sea by Steven Callahan which according to some (but not Uncle Doodles ) the movie was based on. (because) He wasn't a bloody idiot which is why he survived.

Experience: I was adrift on a raft in the Atlantic for 76 days | Life and style | The Guardian

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Old 21-03-2014, 07:15   #588
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And this is exactly why I keep hammering away for people to read the book Adrift, 76 Days Lost at Sea by Steven Callahan which according to some (but not Uncle Doodles ) the movie was based on. (because) He wasn't a bloody idiot which is why he survived.

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I think Callahan may have survived because he was a real person trying to save his ass; whereas, Redford was just an actor following the writer's script. Just a hunch though.
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I think Callahan may have survived because he was a real person trying to save his ass; whereas, Redford was just an actor following the writer's script. Just a hunch though.
Funny, but I'm thinking it helped that he was part engineer, part MacGyver, part ancient navigator, part sailor, part fisherman, etc.

He reengineered those solar stills he had, repaired the raft, made changes to the spear gun, and built a "Butcher Shop" on his craft that he chrisened Rubber Ducky III.

There was also a drogue type device onboard that he used during heavy weather to keep his craft from going too fast and flipping. Point is he had the needed skills.
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And this is exactly why I keep hammering away for people to read the book Adrift, 76 Days Lost at Sea by Steven Callahan which according to some (but not Uncle Doodles ) the movie was based on. (because) He wasn't a bloody idiot which is why he survived.

Experience: I was adrift on a raft in the Atlantic for 76 days | Life and style | The Guardian

http://survivalcache.com/book-review...survival-book/
You really don't need to hammer away about the book. Most here have read it years ago. It came out in he '80's and is considered a classic on the subject. I enjoyed it very much and obviously so did you, but I just don't think it was the basis for All is Lost.
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Roger that. So does this mean you are not going to sell me your boat?
How much was the offer? :-)
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We'll find out he survived when they make the sequel.

And what will that be? Searching for the next boat, it could go like this...

Endless walking of marina docks... wandering uncharted boatyards... lonely nights on yachtworld... maybe even posting on CF. That would be a real disaster movie.
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Re: ALL IS LOST: The Movie

I thought the movie was slightly better than average but awful slow. Redford made it tolerable. Life of Pi was way better.

BTW, The Expendables II was the worst crap I've seen in decades. Chuck Norris should just stick to selling exercise equipment.
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I thought the movie was slightly better than average but awful slow. Redford made it tolerable. Life of Pi was way better.

BTW, The Expendables II was the worst crap I've seen in decades. Chuck Norris should just stick to selling exercise equipment.
The first "Expendables" was watchable because of the star quality, machismo and big bangs. Not a good movie by any stretch, but it delivered the goods as advertised. The target audience basically got what they bargained for. It's like a movie made for teen boys.As long as there is a boob flash the kids will leave satisfied no matter how bad the rest of the movie was.

All is lost did not have the analogous boob flash, i.e. a perfectly balanced boat cutting through the waves under full sail in 16 knots of breeze.........
with the skipper flashing a boob.

That is all they needed to do to keep me watching, hoping for another peek.

If they make a "Lost Too", I won't watch it.
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Wow. So this thread is still going. At least its more entertaining than the movie!
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The trailer was more interesting than the movie. I personally don't think anyone associated with the making had any sailing/boating experience. If Redford was a sailer with any experience he would have declined. In short, if not for the name Redford, we would never have heard of it. Interesting idea but done on the cheap and without a clue.
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Wow. So this thread is still going. At least its more entertaining than the movie!
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Re: ALL IS LOST: The Movie

Just came across this and felt I should add my couple-a-pennies...

I love sailing and have a special attraction to off-beat movies. I really enjoyed Cast Away. Extremely limited in lines and had a lot of time listening to the island while watching him deal with his situation. So having All Is Lost travel down a similar road I figured it would give people a sense of sailing alone.

Not only did they fail to build his character with anything that would allow you to get into his shoes so to speak, but the scenes just went from one obstacle to the next. There was no recognition on his part as to what mistakes he made nor any insight into his thought process for the decisions good or bad. The only exception was a reaction he had to finding the back cap to the water jug being open. You are left guessing what he is doing. Maybe having him narrate it or read logs that explain what he had to do as he went would have been better. I don't know. As a movie it was boring and as a sailing movie it was a let down.

Two big ones IMHO... who climbs the mast in the middle of the ocean, alone, without looking around for threatening weather first. He climbed up only to be surprised by the approaching foul weather and make his way back down. The other is that a man his age being drug alongside his topsides in the water by his life line would have never made it back up. I probably couldn't do it and I'm nearly half his age. At least hire someone with offshore experience to run through some of the glaring problems. Probably would have cost the producers a bottle of rum :P
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OK, I finally saw the movie. From a legitimate sailing perspective (if I may...), it was kind of ridiculous. It made me cringe when he basically rammed the container with his bow (why not just slip a line for the sea anchor in the first place?). The "S.O.S." was hysterical. And I never will understand why every watercraft in the movie kept rolling over in what I would consider to be some pretty mediocre waves. On the Gulf Stream, we call that: "chop."

Nonetheless, from a more simple and non-technical perspective, I thought it was a pretty interesting movie, for reasons that are hard to put my finger on. I think I was fascinated by the matter-of-fact way that he accepted all of the things that happened, and immediately set upon dealing with them (awkwardly or not...). I'm not so graceful under pressure most of the time. Probably easier when you know you're in a movie.

It was one of those movies that left me thinking afterwards, about what I am not sure, but thinking nonetheless. I will probably watch it again one day. Pete
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You really don't need to hammer away about the book. Most here have read it years ago. It came out in he '80's and is considered a classic on the subject. I enjoyed it very much and obviously so did you, but I just don't think it was the basis for All is Lost.
Hey Uncle Doodles,

It's looking more and more like many haven't read the book

Adrift, 76 Days Lost at Sea by Steven Callahan

otherwise they'd be making the connection.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-li...wecked-1528619

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