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Old 11-11-2015, 15:36   #226
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Re: What Can We Do About Drones?!?

Imagine the number of youtube hits you'd get with the video of "It wasn't me Officer. Seriously, it was that seagull there."
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Re: What Can We Do About Drones?!?

He said the bottle he threw at it solved the problem. Sounds like it was a good op. for us to show what blow hards we are.
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He said the bottle he threw at it solved the problem. Sounds like it was a good op. for us to show what blow hards we are.
Did he put a message in the bottle? Must have been quite a threatening message to scare off a drone.
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Ah... You might drop by a Bass ProShop and pick up an inexpensive Bow Fishing rig. It could/would be useful on the yacht anyway and an easy shot to bring down (with the leader line) an intrusive drone. One could employ a catch and release technique considering that a dunk in the sea will take care of most drones...No?
After further consideration, I'm thinking a Paint Ball Gun with a Laser Pointer might be just the ticket for Drone Swatting, eh? A tad over $110.00 at Dick's Sporting Goods...
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Re: What Can We Do About Drones?!?

I am 100% sure 2.4 is jammeable like anything else. Take a 2.4 carrier generator boost and BOOOM! No comms. Whatever is radio, is jammeable 100%.

And when you are physically closer than the 'pilot' then you have the upper hand.

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Old 11-11-2015, 18:26   #231
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All this talk of jamming the 2.4Ghz ISM band is quite naive.

Firstly, drones also commonly communicate on the 433MHz and 900MHz ISM bands, which is much longer range, and some are capable of operating on the 5.6GHz bands.

Secondly, many of them are capable of completely autonomous operation by following a GPS circuit. The drone that's pestering you may not even be transmitting to an operator, it may just be recording to an SD card and returning home. Finally, all of the new ones are capable of return-to-origin in the event that they lose communications.

Thirdly, the vast majority of 2.4GHz signaling mechanisms are spread-spectrum, which means they automatically frequency hop to avoid noise and channels that are already in use, because these bands are predicated on noisy use. If you don't know what spread-spectrum is, read the wikipedia article on it.

There is no "off-the-shelf" analog transmitter you could buy that can generate a broadband signal across the entire 2.4GHz band. Consider that this band is almost 100MHZ wide--5X wider than the entire FM radio band and vastly wider than the AM radio band. Generating a signal that broad takes a considerable amount of power--even Microwave ovens in that band aren't that wide.

Sure, you could build and power a broadband 2.4GHz jammer, and then you'd merely be breaking federal law. It's illegal in the U.S. to intentionally jam anything.

I spent six years in the Navy as an Electronic Warfare technician--my job was jamming radar and communications. Since then I've been heavily involved in wireless networking, including monitoring and surveying the 2.4GHz spectrum on spectrum analyzers for field deployments.
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Besides being illegal, jamming hurts everyone else in the area legitimately using those frequencies, not only the individual causing the annoyance.
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Re: What Can We Do About Drones?!?

I would buy a drone myself, to follow this one on its way back home...

Or

Have a friend ashore (even better, a cop) who can intervene ashore as far as you communicate to him

You have a right of image... I'd like to capture it, if said options are not at hand
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Re: What Can We Do About Drones?!?

I'm no expert but I think radio jamming on any frequencies is specifically against law and regulations in the US and I suspect in Europe. Even just local jamming.
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:19   #235
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About the only way you're going to get one out of the air is physically.
Looks like Canada is going to implement a license system for all drone operators to adressse the problems.
They mostly operate on 2.4g using a frequency hopping system.
You can't "upload malware" using wifi through the rx, flat out don't work that way! Plus wifi is using a different part of the 2.4 spectrum. As are garage door openers, cordless phones, cell phones........
Some interesting ideas though!
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Potato gun loaded with a net.
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This whole juvenile thread has at least provided entertainment to my old ass!
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Potato gun loaded with a net.
By FAR my favorite!!!

I built and owned a nice 6 footer in college. Most laughs I've ever had.

We quickly started loading it up with anything we could find that looked like it'd be fun to make fly.

Nearly died of laughter when we shot a little valentines day teddy bear out of it.

Excellent for pirates too! They might laugh so hard they let you go!
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Shoot it.
I'm serious...
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I vote for t he get your own drone and follow it home. Then get the cops involved.
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