Visa Issues in Schengen Countries - Page 2

goboatingnow · 21-10-2009, 09:00

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It does seem possible to get an extended long stay visa,for say France, of six months. Is it then possible to visit another Schengen country say Greece for the 90 days.
Another issue in regard to the long term visa in France, they want you to give an address where you will stay in france. I will be on a boat, my boat.

Yes you can visit another schengen country on your long stay french visa, 90 days in 180.

As to the address on a boat , it may not be acceptable

Dockhead · 21-10-2009, 12:42

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Originally Posted by idpnd

You may wish to plan your trip so as to spend some time in the non-EU Adriatic/Turkey and go back and forth; this may cost you a few seasons but it's much warmer down there

Amen to that. A relatively small part of the Mediterranean coastline is Schengen. In fact, possibly the best cruising in all of the Med is in two magical non-Schengen countries: Turkey, and Croatia. It would not be hard at all to devise an itinerary where you would be very far away from a Schengen visa problem.

Of these two countries, ironically (in view of our prejudices), the Christian country, Croatia, is less civilized. It has the most amazing coast, so it's really worth it, but once you have cruised in Turkish waters you will hardly want to leave. Very nice marinas, all the services you could possibly want, very cheap, extraordinarily friendly people, excellent food, gorgeous anchorages, crystal clear water, a stiff breeze in Meltemi season -- what else could you ask for?

Just make sure and have holding tanks in good order, and use them. The Turks are a bit Nazi-like where discharge regulations are concerned, but otherwise they are just the sweetest people you would ever want to be around.

goboatingnow · 22-10-2009, 06:24

I concur, Turkey is nicer then Croatia, which has got very expensive in places.

Xpets · 22-10-2009, 06:26

Fully agree to the above; we lived there and loved it but the last 10 years has gradually changed unfortunately.

Now agressive 'service' personell and very expensive harbours and the remote places all have their disco on the beach till morning early blasting without shame to attract the young and beautifull

<most cruisers go to Greece instead.

jim_thomsen · 22-10-2009, 10:26

All the above is correct legally. But we cruised Europe for 3 years, never leaving for 90 days (we are US citizens and our boat is American flagged). We did have to prove our boat was in the EU for less than 18 months (we went to Morocco for a couple of days when we were in southern Spain and that qualified).
The only time we had a problem was in Portugal. In the office with the police and immigration they told us we had a problem and that I was not in the EU legally since I had not left in more than a year. They were fine with my wife, even though she had left the EU for only 2 weeks, but they looked at her entry stamp and it wa less than 90 days old. They did not check her passport to see how long he was out of the EU. But with me they said it was a problem and the head immigration person took my passport and told me I had to come to his private office later that day.

I was worried when I went. And when the Immigration officer asked me again where we had come from and I told thim the last port we had checked into....he looked at me and said, "I don't think so." Before I could argue he said, "I think you just arrived in Portugal from the high seas. Welcome to Portugal." and he stamped my passport and said I now could stay 90 more days. We stayed another year and never had another problem.

I know this is not the legal ruling, but I never heard from any other non-EU citizens on boats having a problem. I would return to Europe (if the US$ was stronger!) and not worry about the 90 day issue.

beneteau-500 · 22-10-2009, 14:18

well as an aussie myself who has lived in london for past 17 yrs and sail the med from march to october every yr i have had no probs in greece italy fance and spain in obtaining a visa extension and my yacht has been based on the Island of Naxos greece ( Naxos island Greece | Webcams | Information about Naxos > Cyclades Islands) and its aussie flagged yacht and have had no probs

Cheechako · 22-10-2009, 15:46

...."canals" of B.C.!

and avoid all that european bureacratic stuff!

hellosailor · 22-10-2009, 16:51

Find one of those small Pacific island nations that is claiming global warming is about ot exterminate them. Then ask for embassy status or military status, declare war on the Schengen countries and announce you are there for the purposes of conquest, under diplomatic protection. Surely in a world of the absurd...hasn't everyone read or seen "The Mouse That Roared" ?

Perhaps it is simpler to repaint the boat and buy false papers.

22-10-2009, 06:26	#19
Xpets Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: soon on board Boat: Tashing Orion 50 ' named ' touché ' Posts: 111	Fully agree to the above; we lived there and loved it but the last 10 years has gradually changed unfortunately. Now agressive 'service' personell and very expensive harbours and the remote places all have their disco on the beach till morning early blasting without shame to attract the young and beautifull <most cruisers go to Greece instead. __________________ They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. -- Andy Warhol

22-10-2009, 10:26	#20
jim_thomsen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego, currently in the Caribbean Boat: Hallberg-Rassy 40 TENAYA Posts: 71	All the above is correct legally. But we cruised Europe for 3 years, never leaving for 90 days (we are US citizens and our boat is American flagged). We did have to prove our boat was in the EU for less than 18 months (we went to Morocco for a couple of days when we were in southern Spain and that qualified). The only time we had a problem was in Portugal. In the office with the police and immigration they told us we had a problem and that I was not in the EU legally since I had not left in more than a year. They were fine with my wife, even though she had left the EU for only 2 weeks, but they looked at her entry stamp and it wa less than 90 days old. They did not check her passport to see how long he was out of the EU. But with me they said it was a problem and the head immigration person took my passport and told me I had to come to his private office later that day. I was worried when I went. And when the Immigration officer asked me again where we had come from and I told thim the last port we had checked into....he looked at me and said, "I don't think so." Before I could argue he said, "I think you just arrived in Portugal from the high seas. Welcome to Portugal." and he stamped my passport and said I now could stay 90 more days. We stayed another year and never had another problem. I know this is not the legal ruling, but I never heard from any other non-EU citizens on boats having a problem. I would return to Europe (if the US$ was stronger!) and not worry about the 90 day issue. __________________ Jim www.tenayatravels.com

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Cheechako Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Skagit City, WA Boat: Fellippi 32 Posts: 2,205	or how about the ...."canals" of B.C.! and avoid all that european bureacratic stuff! Attached Thumbnails

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22-10-2009, 06:24	#18
goboatingnow Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 161	I concur, Turkey is nicer then Croatia, which has got very expensive in places.

22-10-2009, 14:18	#21
beneteau-500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naxos Cyclades islands greece Boat: beneteau-500 clipper 15.45 Idylle6 Posts: 35	well as an aussie myself who has lived in london for past 17 yrs and sail the med from march to october every yr i have had no probs in greece italy fance and spain in obtaining a visa extension and my yacht has been based on the Island of Naxos greece ( Naxos island Greece \| Webcams \| Information about Naxos > Cyclades Islands) and its aussie flagged yacht and have had no probs

22-10-2009, 16:51	#23
hellosailor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,993	Find one of those small Pacific island nations that is claiming global warming is about ot exterminate them. Then ask for embassy status or military status, declare war on the Schengen countries and announce you are there for the purposes of conquest, under diplomatic protection. Surely in a world of the absurd...hasn't everyone read or seen "The Mouse That Roared" ? Perhaps it is simpler to repaint the boat and buy false papers.