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Old 20-04-2013, 05:51   #1
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USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

I first read the e-mail and thought it was a CF prank. But the knuckleheads really want to charge $26 a year to renew the docs for a documented vessel.

It isn't the money, although this will deprive me of 1-2 doubles a year, but the principle of it. Renewal of the docs is the only renewal you cannot do on-line. They still want !@#$@! paper! So why should we pay for their refusal to join the 21st century?

Okay rant over- please go to Regulations.gov and post a comment.

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Old 20-04-2013, 06:00   #2
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

I actually got the same email. But I think it is reasonable to charge for doing the renewal. Why should non boater taxpayers be paying for free document service for us?

My hope would be that if they start charging that the renewal is good for more than 1 year.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

Pretty modest fee actually, but the one issue I see is it will add a layer of difficulty for those out cruising in some part of the world without good communications. Even better would be automatic renewals each year charging your credit card or PayPal account.
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Old 20-04-2013, 06:03   #4
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

Thats good info-, Thanks for the post-The money does matter when it $26 here , there & every where you turn, it adds up- and how will many pay it while crusing?
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I actually got the same email. But I think it is reasonable to charge for doing the renewal. Why should non boater taxpayers be paying for free document service for us?

My hope would be that if they start charging that the renewal is good for more than 1 year.
Don,

My posted comment on the GOV site was that we should pay more for the first listing and have a user-friendly on-line renewal process. To ask for $26 each year to support an archaic paper form is crazy.

If one can renew a D/L, car registration, boat registration- heck in FL you can renew the LLC's filings on-line, why should we pay to continue a paper system?
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Don,

My posted comment on the GOV site was that we should pay more for the first listing and have a user-friendly on-line renewal process. To ask for $26 each year to support an archaic paper form is crazy.

If one can renew a D/L, car registration, boat registration- heck in FL you can renew the LLC's filings on-line, why should we pay to continue a paper system?
I have no problems with this. Maybe I will post a similar comment.

It is pretty out of date that boat documention is good for 1 year, but my passport is 10/15 (can not even remember).
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

passsport is 10 yrs.
boat doc is 1 yr.
cdl is 5 yrs....thank gods i dont have to renew that again,....

would be nice if they would make the online site user friendly....and online renewal possible...
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

My issue is we already paid a large fee to initially document the vessel, which is supposed to be high to cover renewal.

Second, I understand the need to have one year renewls for commercial vessels, but why can't they make a five year vessel documentation for non-commercial vessels, under 65 feet?

And finally, as mentioned before the USCG needs to simplify the process of renewal for non-commercial vessels and do it on line, instead of signature cards. This is a hastle for people cruising outside the US.
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I have a problem with the $26 when the cruise lines registered in other countries and pay an average of 0.6% in taxes and cost the Coast Guard over $750,000 in towing and support and tell us to call Tow Boat. They are just finding a way to recoup their losses.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

I would really like a 5 year renewal, instead of the annual thing, I keep forgetting and they charge me a good bit for renewing an out of date documentation.
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I have a problem with the $26 when the cruise lines registered in other countries and pay an average of 0.6% in taxes and cost the Coast Guard over $750,000 in towing and support and tell us to call Tow Boat. They are just finding a way to recoup their losses.
That's not what happened.

Carnival paid their towing charge. Why should they pay the Coast Guard for "monitoring the situation"?
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Maybe they'll use the renewal fees to bring their record keeping and registration systems into the 21st century.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

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I first read the e-mail and thought it was a CF prank. But the knuckleheads really want to charge $26 a year to renew the docs for a documented vessel.

It isn't the money, although this will deprive me of 1-2 doubles a year, but the principle of it. Renewal of the docs is the only renewal you cannot do on-line. They still want !@#$@! paper! So why should we pay for their refusal to join the 21st century?

Okay rant over- please go to Regulations.gov and post a comment.

Bill

Problem is so many govt agencies have such old computer equipment that they're struggling to move into the 21st century. It is ridiculous, but beaurocracies avoid changes that might make things efficient enough to cut jobs.

I'm amazed you didn't have to pay until now. Last year it was $86 I think to register my boat. Next time it's classified as "antique" and will be under $6.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

How much does anyone pay for vehicle registration? Costs me about $130 for two years.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

In NY car registration depends on the weight of the vehicle, but I pay $59 for two years on a pretty heavy car. My motorcycle is $17.50 per year, and has to be renewed every year.
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