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Old 23-04-2013, 01:59   #61
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

Well guys, if you hadn't got rid of the King you would now have no annual renewals (let alone a fee) and no annual boat taxes.

It's never too late to say sorry and come back into the fold...........
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Old 23-04-2013, 04:40   #62
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Well here is something we can all celebrate here in the U.S.:

IT'S TAX FREEDOM DAY!
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Old 23-04-2013, 05:33   #63
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Ok.... I think you may want to cut back on the caffeine.

You know nothing about me- yet you post something rather arrogant and condescending.

But it is always refreshing to hear that someone feels that filing out forms is the epitome of efficiency....

I trust you can accept this differing opinion. After all that is the beauty of this country.
As far as I can see you don't have many joining the protest wagon with you. How did we get on to filing out form? I thought this was about $26. USCG has always been about filling out forms. That's why only one of my many boats has been USCG documented.

How is those of suggesting you either pay or leave arrogant and condescending? that's how the world works.
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Old 23-04-2013, 06:40   #64
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How is those of suggesting you either pay or leave arrogant and condescending? that's how the world works.
Yes in dictatorships one has the choice of obey or leave. Many have come to the US to escape that because in the US we have the theoretical right to move our country to change. Those of us who were born in the US cherish our citizenship because we have that voice.

If one reads my initial post it is the nuisance of recurring payment without an easy portal. My original post even quips that it is not the money and equates the cost to one of my favorite exchange rates.... The cost of a double Jack!

At this point the debate is circular. And I will yield the floor...


Hey DoJ.... While I have always been a fan of The Crown, one if the issues I have with going back is the bludy food .... Bangers and mash, the pies....
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Old 23-04-2013, 07:30   #65
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

You are under no obligation to use the service. I can see a point about the paperwork, but surely it would cost the CG a ton of money to change there system entirely. Seems the $26 is just to cover the cost of the current system.

the nice thing about the sequester is that is bringing all the hypocrites out of the wood work to protect there pet entitlement. the private jets landing for free (or very low cost) at tax payer supported airports is a big one I would like to see some more light shed on, but perhaps another forum. Nice of someone to mention it here.

DOJ: you are required to register in the UK if going overseas. Most use the SSR, but that is not actually legal to use while offshore as you have to be resident in UK to use it!

anyway, my original advice stands. Just drop the doc. I've sailed to dozens of countries including importing and selling my boat in Australia with just a title issued by the state of Rhode Island. Sticker was long expired, just took it off the bow.
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Old 23-04-2013, 07:35   #66
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It has always cost me more than $25 to get my new certificate sent to me each year when I am out of the country--I have to work my whole schedule around the damn thing. I would happily pay $26 for renewal if the certificate was good for 5 years.
NVDC will also FAX or email you a certified copy on request for a fee. This has worked for me in the W Carib while the physical original finds its way to me.

Also, if you wait until it is a bit overdue you can renew online. Went to the NVDC site to confirm due to this thread...odd that you cant order a regular renewal online, but you can do it by FAX so not really a big deal.
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Old 23-04-2013, 07:46   #67
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Let's keep political commentary to a minimum. Some posts have been removed.
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Old 23-04-2013, 11:34   #68
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Alexandra, in the USA "registration" is something done at the state level, and all 50 states have their own requirements. This thread is about US Coast Guard "documentation" which is done at the national level, and is considered to be required by most if you intend to sail your boat outside of the USA. In my experience entering other countries it is the first piece of paper they want to look at, even more so than your passports. The officials want to know that you own the boat and it isn't stolen, and the document is your proof of that. Frankly, I'm not sure what would happen if you showed up in New Zealand without a document proving you own the boat.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

currently, if you are 32 days overdue, you pay 85 dollars us and begin again...
.i was 33 days overdue.

one needs no registration if one never checks into or out of a port, or if one never uses a marina. if you ever go to a marina anywhere, they want to see your current documentation/registration, and your current liability insurance.
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I would really like a 5 year renewal, instead of the annual thing, I keep forgetting and they charge me a good bit for renewing an out of date documentation.

Same thing happened to me last year. Be nice to get a multi-year renewal for sure.

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currently, if you are 32 days overdue, you pay 85 dollars us and begin again...
.i was 33 days overdue.

one needs no registration if one never checks into or out of a port, or if one never uses a marina. if you ever go to a marina anywhere, they want to see your current documentation/registration, and your current liability insurance.
Just about the same for me. Really frustrating.
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currently, if you are 32 days overdue, you pay 85 dollars us and begin again...
.i was 33 days overdue.

one needs no registration if one never checks into or out of a port, or if one never uses a marina. if you ever go to a marina anywhere, they want to see your current documentation/registration, and your current liability insurance.
Or never gets boarded...
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Old 23-04-2013, 17:58   #72
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Or never gets boarded...
Or does not take out a loan against the boat...

To those suggesting that others just drop documentation since it is "optional" should remember that most US finance companies will require USCG documentation for boats registered in the US.
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Re: USCG to Implement Fee to Renew Documented Vessels

Or never sails beyond The Bahamas
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Rather than complain about the moderate fee lets work for multi year renewal and online renewal


For those who say why document your boat... To go cruising, this is the cruisers forum after all!
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Old 23-04-2013, 18:43   #75
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No need for doc to cruise. As stated, I have visited around 20 countries with
Rhode Island registration. Actually was expired so I just used the title or a photocopy of it.

I would further suggest, best to have your boat paid for if you plan to do much cruising so not sure of this aspect of argument either.
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