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Old 26-05-2013, 18:47   #46
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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

I would imagine, its' abit like that, when, someone's visa expires -and you overstay that of your Visa?

Except, in this case, their going to know when the Passport expires and they may think that he's trying to sneak in -since he's arriving by that of "Personal pleasure craft!" Usually, if you've been travelling overseas for quite a long while. You can get your Passport taken care of at that of an American Embassy -but, I "usually" arrive by way of Jet -these types of problems, are commonly addressed, when picking up your Ticket -and continuing on to that of another foreign country!

I have never arrived, by way of personal craft, into that of another Foreign Country - Except, by way of Cruse Ship -For which, is almost the same as that of flying -very well managed, maintained & orderly.

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Old 26-05-2013, 19:02   #47
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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

Obviously the reality is that those with any experience realize you won't get a visa for more time than your passport is valid for. There is a good chance they might not even look or some offline US official in the Marshalls would issue you some temp travel docs. Either way you'll be told to go to the embassy in Manila to get it sorted unless of course they don't notice the date. I'd say you have decent shot if you check in at a small port.

But, sure would suck to be stuck in some jail a few months or years?
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I am only mildly surprised to discover that the BIL's passport can be not renewed. I know that a court can order surrender of a passport to prevent departure pending trial but the BIL still has his in hand. Naively, I would have thought it illegal to withhold a passport from a citizen. I know that there have been cases in the past where the US refused a passport to a US citizen for political reasons and I thought this had been challenged in the courts. Obviously not the case.
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Old 26-05-2013, 19:26   #49
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Wow it seems like so much freakin trouble just to sail there. Bottom line my brother in law just want to have the amazing journey at sea not in the Philippines, according to my friend in the Philippines you can enter and stay until your visa or passport expires.

I am wondering what if he was in the Philippines, would the us embassy issues him a new passport to fly back to the states even tho he owes money? Or would they just let him rot there?
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Old 26-05-2013, 19:53   #52
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Old 26-05-2013, 19:59   #53
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Old 26-05-2013, 20:00   #54
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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

Sorry, Mai-tide,

BIL is Brother in Law.

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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

What does it have to do with America arrogance? Right because all those Filipinos in Hawaii didn't take advantage of our system. Everybody respects American borders.

I think your brother can't because he could ruin the trip for everyone. If it was just him he could try if he wanted. It might be harder to get into America. Maybe not.

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I can only agree with Daddle. For your BIL to arrive with expired passport and expect to get in reeks of American arrogance and superiority, treating the Philippines as an inferior country. Things are lax in the Philippines, but not that lax.

Any cash your BIL might have when he arrives, will disappear on initial apprehension, from then on deportation will be an ugly affair.

Last January I had the experience of a personal guided tour through a low/medium security prison in a province noted for a low crime rate. A foreigner there without local family support and outside income would have a very hard time of it. I cannot think what conditions might be like in a higher security prison in Luzon.

I can only agree that if your BIL gets caught it will help ruin things for everybody. The Philippines is possibly the most liberal country in SE Asia when it comes to immigration and customs clearance for yachts. Its so easy to comply. Those who don't and get caught will lead to an inevitable tightening.

In my travels, I have met various people travelling under the radar in the Philippines...illegal aliens, yachts that have not cleared in or done immigration. Some of these people are rat smart and may get away with it, others are just plain stupid. Where is your BIL?

I will stop now, you may sense a bit of heat in my post.

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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

A passport will not be issues if you have more then $5000 in back child support owed. The state agency's just have to notify the passport office that there is an outstanding child support debt and its a done deal. Very hard on non-custodial parents. Also drivers licenses can be suspended just as easily.

I agree that child support should be paid. But there is no flexibility in the current system. I know far too many guys struggling to keep current with child support and have enough left to scrape by on.

Also many country's have extradition treaties related to ex'pats and child support, including the Philippines.
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Re: Traveling abroad without a passport

Can't recall how many times foreign folks have tried to hit me up for a ride on a delivery offering to work for nothing just to slip into or out of a country. Skippering a boat with 'illegals' aboard (let's call a spade a spade!)ie., without a passport, can land the Capt'n in a whole mess of sh*t to say nothing of recurring problems entering and leaving the country again. If the OP's BIL didn't declare his gambling losses as well as his winnings, he needs a new accountant. Child support can be 'iffy' but perfectly legal for the ex to use all kinds of nasty ways to try and collect. Best to not marry or get 'fixed' to avoid the problem. I like MarkJ's comment!! Perhaps he should go back to court and get some help, particularly if the kids are late teens and he can show he did the right thing by them when they were smaller. Sounds messy but no preaching from this old dog! Phil
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