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Old 06-08-2014, 07:03   #16
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Re: Sound Signals when at Anchor in Restricted Visibility

Good luck with your test. The rules book (US) you should be using should be updated to COMDTINST M16672.2D in your case paragraph g references paragraph f which states the correct whistle signal as one short, one prolonged and one short.


Edit- I'm presuming inland rules since you didn't state which but f and g matches more closely with inland. It doesn't matter anyway in this case since the sound signal is the same.

Edit 2- check out seasources.net you can take 20 question tests on one rule or section of rules using actual USCG questions. It helped me when I got my 1600.
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Good luck with your test. The rules book (US) you should be using should be updated to COMDTINST M16672.2D in your case paragraph g references paragraph f which states the correct whistle signal as one short, one prolonged and one short.

Are you sure about this? Sound "R" Romeo? Romeo means going alongside for replenishemnt/bunkering at sea
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Well since I'm holding the book in my lap, yes I'm positive.

Edit- unless the vessel is under 12 meters, then some other efficient means is required.
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Re: Sound Signals when at Anchor in Restricted Visibility

My wife and I both passed all our exams. We both took the OUPV (six-pack), Masters, and the sailing endorsement.

Thanks to all who answered my questions on this forum. Your input really helped!

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Re: Sound Signals when at Anchor in Restricted Visibility

Congratulations to you both on passing.

Just going back to the post about sounding 1 short, 1 Long, and 1 short.
This is the additional signal that may be sounded by a vessel at anchor.
Below is extract from inland rules (lifted from a website)

(f) A vessel at anchor shall at intervals of not more than 1 minute ring the
bell rapidly for about 5 seconds. In a vessel of 100 meters or more in length the bell shall be sounded in the forepart of the vessel and immediately after the ringing of the bell the gong shall be sounded rapidly for about 5 seconds in the after part of the vessel. A vessel at anchor may in addition sound three blasts in succession; namely, one short, one prolonged and one short blast, to give warning of her position and of the possibility of collision to an approaching vessel.

(g) A vessel aground shall give the bell signal and if required the gong
signal prescribed in paragraph (f) of this Rule and shall, in addition, give
three separate and distinct strokes on the bell immediately before and after
the rapid ringing of the bell. A vessel aground may in addition sound an
appropriate whistle signal
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Are you sure about this? Sound "R" Romeo? Romeo means going alongside for replenishemnt/bunkering at sea
Code Flag Romeo indicates a vessel is Ready for replenishment operations underway.
While be flown on the side of the ship on which the transfer will take place.
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Re: Sound Signals when at Anchor in Restricted Visibility

My usual naive curiosity:

Why are there differences in signals for ships at anchor and aground? Seems to me that neither is able to maneuver and neither is under way. What practical reason is there for the distinction?

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My usual naive curiosity:

Why are there differences in signals for ships at anchor and aground? Seems to me that neither is able to maneuver and neither is under way. What practical reason is there for the distinction?

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In reading the entire rule the fog signal they are refer to in paragraph f are the identifier signals listed in 35c and 35i.

So if you are fishing in fog and aground and under 100 m you would ring the bell for 5 seconds with 3 distinct strokes before and after you ring it. You may (not shall) choose to sound an identifier signal of 1 prolonged and 2 short every 2 minutes.

In 35c RAM vessels and fishing vessels are explicitly stated as being able to sound their signals if underway or at anchor. 35i says that pilot boats engaged in pilotage duty can sound 4 short blasts.

You may sound the one short, one prolonged and one short to warn an approaching vessel of risk of collision. You can not sound the danger signal, it is for when vessels are in sight of each other only.
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Code Flag Romeo indicates a vessel is Ready for replenishment operations underway.
While be flown on the side of the ship on which the transfer will take place.
Agreed, However the Morse signal for Romeo is

Short Prolonged Short

I do not doubt what you say - just seems a strange signal to give in this situation

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That's true Carsten, but how many boaters carry pub 102 and use it on a regular basis? For that matter I'd wager most small commercial boats wouldn't have it unless it was required by the USCG.
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That's true Carsten, but how many boaters carry pub 102 and use it on a regular basis? For that matter I'd wager most small commercial boats wouldn't have it unless it was required by the USCG.
Ok, I admit I'm a nerd (a real nerd). I carry the colregs and a book called (free translation) Markers in Danish waters which shows all the buoy, light houses , shipborne lights, sounds etc. (I said I was a nerd).

I also carry signal flags (and a chart showing both the flags, what letter they represent, their intrinsic meaning and the Morse signal for each).

Finall, as Jim and Ann have found out, I also carry and fly, anchor balls and the inverted cone motorsailing triangle

I said I was a nerd

But I agree, lots of boaters don't carry nor have they ever read the colregs or know their lights/flags/morse etc.

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You are not alone carsten

For the years in Marine College I would read one Rule a night, just before falling asleep and dream about it.

For the Orals on the higher licenses, you were expected to recite them verbatim as well as be able to list the key court cases.

Then I found out I was definitely over prepared
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You are not alone carsten

For the years in Marine College I would read one Rule a night, just before falling asleep and dream about it.

For the Orals on the higher licenses, you were expected to recite them verbatim as well as be able to list the key court cases.

Then I found out I was definitely over prepared
The Yachtmaster off-shore here consists of amongst other things a 40 question written exam. You have 1/2 hour, more than 2 incorrect you're toast and go home before getting to the oral part.

The written part has a section where there is a short prose description (you are sailing sailboat "A" when you see the lights as shown in "B" then underneath two boxes showing ship lights. Question - "What should you do? What should boat "B" do?

There's 10 of those (very very tricky indeed), then it's off to daysignals, night signals for every conceivable type of craft on the water in every conceivable situation (including all their fog signals)
Grande finale is correct identification of every type of buoy and the correct identification of their light signals.

Finally a short section where you are asked what (if any) action you would take assuming you saw the following lights while at sea (example: steering course 270 degree you see a white light dead ahead showing VQ - what should you do?)

LIke you, I sweated over learning all of it (I did it self-study), drove my wife crazy listening to me repeating (almost) silently to myself at the dinner table etc all the rules. ( I got my revenge however, a couple of years later she took her off-shore and then she was muttering under her breath at the table and having dreams/nightmares about that test LOL)
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