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09-06-2017, 09:46
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: New Franklin, Ohio
Boat: Homebuilt schooner 64 ft. Sold.
Posts: 1,486
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
Yes I agree just do it, no harm, no foul. But as a official involved in a Naional youth sporting activity, I can tell you rules give officials something to what we call "hang our hat on". You would be surprised at what human beings will do when given free reign. It is the old "give them an inch and they take a mile". Always two sides to every issue.
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09-06-2017, 09:54
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 58
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
They are not really ashes but "cremains". All that is left are the bones so how is this different from crushed shells? I spread both of my parents cremains on the beach and in the surf in front of their last home. Beautiful.
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09-06-2017, 10:02
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 77
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
I tried to bury my wife at sea....... but she kept swimming back to the boat :-/
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09-06-2017, 10:07
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
Boat: SAnta Cruz 27
Posts: 6,734
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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09-06-2017, 10:24
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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Originally Posted by Davidhoy
My mother-in-law recently passed away, and one of her last wishes was to be cremated and have her ashes scattered at sea. I would have thought this to be a pretty simple, and personal, thing to do, but someone told me it was more complicated than that. Turns out that the EPA has a long list of rules and regulations regarding burial at sea, whether it be intact bodies or cremation ashes.
https://www.epa.gov/ocean-dumping/burial-sea
I was planning on just sailing out on a nice day, drinking a beer or two in her honor (she would approve!), and scattering her ashes. I will likely still do that, regardless of what the government rules are. It's not like there are ashes-police out there, and frankly it's none of their damned business!
-David
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Have two beers, one for her and honor her wishes. My mother is someplace off Tampa in the Gulf.
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09-06-2017, 10:50
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: PA, sail Chesapeake
Boat: Lots of boats.
Posts: 390
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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Originally Posted by johnyhask
I tried to bury my wife at sea....... but she kept swimming back to the boat :-/
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LOL - gotta love it.
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09-06-2017, 10:58
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Courtenay BC
Boat: Bavaria Vision 42
Posts: 704
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
I'll add my voice to the "just do it" group. And I wouldn't be paying any attention to the 3 mile limit stuff either. Why follow one rule when you're "breaking" the rest? I have scattered the ashes of both my parents by a navigation mark just off a park they loved - 300 yds off shore in the Salish Sea. And I didn't even look at whether there were any regs. Only ask some questions when you already know the answers!
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09-06-2017, 11:11
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: fl- various marinas
Boat: morgan O/I 33' sloop
Posts: 1,447
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
I've researched this issue and the regulations generally do not apply if you go beyond the 3 mile limit. Ashes are easy, a full body requires some planning including refrigeration, preventing resurfacing and transportation to the boat. It is absolutely the case that it is better to ask forgiveness than permission.
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09-06-2017, 11:53
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
Does the EPA cover my pyre on a long ship? I guess I will have to have sons dump my ashes out on an outgoing tide. We don't have icy sidewalks or they could be used to keep someone from slipping.
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09-06-2017, 13:35
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Boat: Uniflite, 36 Aft Cabin, KNOT GUILTY
Posts: 27
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
My wife is torn and twixt. I told her that I wanted to have a Viking funeral and that way she can collect on both insurance policies. Then she found out that you can compress the ashes into a diamond. Now I'm fearful I will be a landlubber!!
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09-06-2017, 13:44
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#41
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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Originally Posted by fSymo
That sounds beautiful. The regs seem pretty clear that as long as your 3 miles out, no worries. May she rest in peace.
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There is no 3 mile regulation, the charter boats like the Neptune society only go out maybe a half mile at the most outside the harbor for the ceremony.
Just do it.
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09-06-2017, 14:29
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Back on dirt in Florida
Boat: Currently in between
Posts: 1,338
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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Originally Posted by Cadence
Have two beers, one for her and honor her wishes. My mother is someplace off Tampa in the Gulf.
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Mom is under the computer desk as I type. When dad goes, he is 90, they will be "together forever" somewhere straight west of Tarpon Springs in the Gulf.
In Sarasota there is a company that mixes ashes with concrete and pours them into forms for reef balls. Really neat idea and I was pretty much sold but when I told dad it was $6K, he said "Hell with that, just throw us off the boat."
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09-06-2017, 14:31
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Back on dirt in Florida
Boat: Currently in between
Posts: 1,338
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
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09-06-2017, 14:50
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,208
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
Quote:
Originally Posted by SV Bacchus
Mom is under the computer desk as I type. When dad goes, he is 90, they will be "together forever" somewhere straight west of Tarpon Springs in the Gulf.
In Sarasota there is a company that mixes ashes with concrete and pours them into forms for reef balls. Really neat idea and I was pretty much sold but when I told dad it was $6K, he said "Hell with that, just throw us off the boat."
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Dad sounds like a sensible man.
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09-06-2017, 15:05
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#45
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Dufour 35 Classic
Posts: 106
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Re: Scattering ashes at sea
My father died 20 years ago or so. He was a member of Coogee Surf club and wanted to have his ashes scattered at sea. We contacted the club and they organised the surfboat crew to take them out to sea near Wedding Cake Island, and with tossed oars the surfboat captain emptied the urn into the sea.
We watched from the shore with a monster telephoto lens.
Mum sent a donation to the club afterwards and they sent a lovely note back recognising dad's service history.
I drive by the beach often and look out to sea and remember my dad
Nice way to go for someone with salt water in their veins!
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