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09-01-2014, 13:38
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question about a 6-pac license
Hello,
I understand most of the requirements for attaining a USCG 6-pac license, but one part confuses me and I can't find the answer anywhere.
When it states the required number of days sailing, WHAT IS A "DAY"?
I don't know if it means 'every time you go out for an hour' or 'must sail for 8 hours' or every 24-hour period aboard is 'one day'.
Help please...
James
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09-01-2014, 13:47
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
This may clarify things for you.
License Requirements: The minimum requirements for the OUPV Inland & Great Lakes captains license are:
Have required sea service (day is a minimum of four hours underway)
- At least a total 360 days
- 90 days in the last 3 years. This is called recency
- For Great Lakes endorsement, need at least 90 days of the 360 day on the Great Lakes.
I don't know if it is different for areas outside of the Great Lakes.
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09-01-2014, 14:26
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
If no one else answers you first I will tomorrow night. I'm starting my class tomorrow and I'm sure thy will cover it.
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09-01-2014, 14:35
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
A day at sea, comprised of 24 hours, if you are on board, and stand an 8 hour watch, usually broken down into 4 hours on 8 hours off, or sometimes 8 hours on and 16 hours off. If you put in a 12 hour watch, 12 hours on, 12 hours off, or 6 and 6 then you get extra credit. You need (360), 8 hour days or (240), 12 hour days for the first license.
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09-01-2014, 14:41
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
4hrs in the minimum to count a day. But two 4hr shifts in 24hrs doesn't count as 2 days.
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09-01-2014, 14:44
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
Hm... Post #3 and #4 don't Jibe. (so to speak) :-)
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09-01-2014, 14:44
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
4hrs in 24hr period, my paperwork went buy date. Need 4 hours on the date you claimed. Any more than that on the date was just gravy, and didn't account for anything. 24 period underway and 4hr fishing is still 1 day at sea. That's the way my instructor taught us and how I filled out my sea time paperwork. And that time does not need to be on your boat. You can document any day you spent 4 hours as long as it could be verified by the capt of said vessel.
Good luck
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09-01-2014, 14:52
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
In my experience for a 6-pack they really don't care that much. I was told by Houston Marine (where I did my 100ton) that a 'day' was any day you took a boat out of the slip for at least four hours. With a limit of one 'day' per callender day.
If you are close enough to be considering getting one, then it shouldn't be that hard to grab a few extra days if the USCG disallows a few.
Theoretically not every day on the water counts, or count the same. I was only allowe to count every day as 1/2 a day for the time I spent on warships for example since I wasn't involved in ships operations.
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09-01-2014, 15:24
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
they expect you to document 4 hr days as an "average minimum" ...DO NOT LISTEN to most input from the internet...I taught licensing for 5 years...just call here if you have any serious questions...not worth taking bad advice...
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09-01-2014, 17:10
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
they expect you to document 4 hr days as an "average minimum" ...DO NOT LISTEN to most input from the internet...I taught licensing for 5 years...just call here if you have any serious questions...not worth taking bad advice...
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yes, do not listen to others input who post on the internet, just PSNEED who posted input on the internet
My input= worthless
PSNEED= $.02
Entertainment value= priceless
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09-01-2014, 17:10
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
Here is from the actual uscg site
There are different licenses which may be obtained. The time requirements for these different licenses will vary. Time is based on the number of days on the water. In New England, the US Coast Guard recognizes four (4) hours or more of time underway in one twenty-four (24) hour period as one day.
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09-01-2014, 17:49
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
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Originally Posted by Cruiser2B
yes, do not listen to others input who post on the internet, just PSNEED who posted input on the internet
My input= worthless
PSNEED= $.02
Entertainment value= priceless
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You are a quick learner
Why waste time on the internet when a phone call will get you the info in less time and with a name from NMC will be worth it's weight in gold if there's ever an issue with correctness.
Plus the site I linked has way more info than anyone just starting the process....having taught it...I know how much bad info is slung around.
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09-01-2014, 19:09
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
they expect you to document 4 hr days as an "average minimum" ...DO NOT LISTEN to most input from the internet...I taught licensing for 5 years...just call here if you have any serious questions...not worth taking bad advice...
Home--USCG National Maritime Center
Our Chatting option is currently under construction.
To call our friendly and knowledgeable Customer Service Representatives dial 1-888-IASKNMC (1-888-427-5662). When calling, please have your reference or social security number available.
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A big "Yes" to this post. Only the folks who issue the licenses can answer specific questions. However, 4 hours in a 24 hour calendar day counts for a day in the requirements. If you set sail at 2000 and arrive at 0400 you've sailed 2 days.
Did I get that right PS?
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10-01-2014, 01:37
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
USCG Primer for a six-pack
or
USCG owners safety exam
Lloyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by jameskelsey
Hello,
I understand most of the requirements for attaining a USCG 6-pac license, but one part confuses me and I can't find the answer anywhere.
When it states the required number of days sailing, WHAT IS A "DAY"?
I don't know if it means 'every time you go out for an hour' or 'must sail for 8 hours' or every 24-hour period aboard is 'one day'.
Help please...
James
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10-01-2014, 01:41
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Re: question about a 6-pac license
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiprJohn
A big "Yes" to this post. Only the folks who issue the licenses can answer specific questions. However, 4 hours in a 24 hour calendar day counts for a day in the requirements. If you set sail at 2000 and arrive at 0400 you've sailed 2 days.
Did I get that right PS?
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Jeez thought what I posted from the uscg site was pretty clear,4 hours in a 24 hour period counts. Not 4 hours in a calendar day,
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