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Old 11-11-2010, 05:22   #16
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I always cringe when I read these posts. A full size normal toilet for a boat is USD$225 at Westmarine JABSCO Head at West Marine
Finding and fitting the holding tank would be a bit of a pain but not that difficult.

The increase in the value of the boat would far outweigh the cost.

The other solution of a new portapotty (etc) used in the manner that Minggat sounds excellent. If the old one has the slightest aroma buy a new one. They are only $150. In boat bucks thats cheap!

Just because you have one doesn't mean you must use it, you can 'go check the anchor' often. It can stay pristine and be on standby for guests. Not just girly-whirlies but any other form of human life that may occur on your boat occasionally.

At $150 or $225 for a toilet using a bucket its not a money thing, its something else (or maybe the lack of something else)... some kind of statement.


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Old 11-11-2010, 08:56   #17
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the toilet on my boat looks fine but its bolted and can only be emptyed by vacume, the bucket while underway can be use in cabin or cockpit then easaly rinsed overboard and stached away. To me this seem like practical...one thing I dont like about the porta potty is the chimacal additive we put inn to brake down wast..dont know what it is but I refuse to dump anything unatural in any waters.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:14   #18
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We used a 5-gallon bucket with a seat attached for several years. If you're going that route, I recommend adding a good amount of cedar kitty litter in the bottom, and keep a bag nearby for scooping a cup in over recent additions. . . . Also, pee overboard or while swimming whenever possible to keep the liquid volume low. That helps keep the odor down.

Long story short -- we upgraded last year to a Raritan PHII, with a home-made epoxy+glass lined 35 gallon holding tank. Luxury! Those 5-gallon pails, even with cedar, get to be a bit ripe after a few days. . . .
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:50   #19
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Almost all marinas in SoCal require a MSD.
There are "portable" MSDs for ~$170.
Not a bad price to pay to avoid the "humiliation factor"
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not sure but I reckon pretty soon they will require anyone boarding a recreational boat to insert a locking plug into their rear end to prevent any unwanted or unintentional discharge of solid waste material into protected waters ..
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Here's a resource I found while looking into this type of waste disposal a few years ago. maybe someone could use it as well. There's a free book that is actually pretty decent. Humanure Handbook.
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.....one thing I dont like about the porta potty is the chimacal additive we put inn to brake down wast..dont know what it is but I refuse to dump anything unatural in any waters.
In the years I've been using a porta-potty, I've only used "chemicals" a few times because they were handy and a little better smelling. As has been mentioned, keeping the waste on the dry side helps hold down odor AND composting. Without adding it, the stuff can still break down.

I think you might be mistaken by thinking the additives are harmful and un-natural. They are enzymes if I'm not mistaken. Life does not do too well without enzymes.

It just takes a little common sense to make it work. Sometimes a little thinking outside of the box helps too.
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In the years I've been using a porta-potty, I've only used "chemicals" a few times because they were handy and a little better smelling. As has been mentioned, keeping the waste on the dry side helps hold down odor AND composting. Without adding it, the stuff can still break down.

I think you might be mistaken by thinking the additives are harmful and un-natural. They are enzymes if I'm not mistaken. Life does not do too well without enzymes.

It just takes a little common sense to make it work. Sometimes a little thinking outside of the box helps too.
I guess your right? The term chimical toilet send the wrong impresion to the uneducated...plus thers a vent tube to the outside on my toilet.
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My boat originally had a "proper head" (ceramic bowl w/bronze pump and holding tank), the last owner replaced it with a porta-potti, removed the holding tank and sealed up the thru hull...I was not happy with his decision but have been living on board for 3 1/2 years now. I discovered a very nice enzyme made by Rutland that breaks down everything very quickly and give no odor (a friend of mine and his wife used it for 5 years on their boat). I have never used my porta-potti...I always managed to use the shore-head.
I just don't like porta-pottis but they ar4e better than a bucket.
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If I was the original poster I would build a composting toilet based on 5 gallon buckets either his own design or someone elses or even a commercial kit. The important thing is to keep the urine seperate from the solid waste container (detergent bottle for liquid) and exhaust on the solid waste container. (nicro vent or computer fan 12 volt)
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If I was the original poster I would build a composting toilet based on 5 gallon buckets either his own design or someone elses or even a commercial kit. The important thing is to keep the urine seperate from the solid waste container (detergent bottle for liquid) and exhaust on the solid waste container. (nicro vent or computer fan 12 volt)
The original poster was wondering about the legalities of a bucket as an alternative to the pota-potti, most probably because of the simplicity.....A composting toilet is with out a doubt the most complicated (and unreliable) way to handle waste on a boat.
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:26   #28
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What?


You eat the composted bit?


You are very environmentally conscious. But its been done before in the film/book soylant green


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Porta potty VS bucket VS Head

I cannot yet claim more then one experience on board and underway but from the gals viewpoint let me share my 2 cents.
If the gal is all that "fine" that using a bucket or Porta potty upsets her, you are probably looking in the wrong place for your lady friends. "Looks" and "high class" will never endure certain basic requirements of this life style over time. She might be a 10 landlocked but that does not mean she's even a 2 underway.

I do HIGHLY recommend the seat. I have one we use for camping and was used as back up before we got 2nd toilet installed in house and will carry it on the boat as back up when I am that far along in this.

The only real difference is when camping we take along a box of kitty litter to kill the smell so we do not have to empty it in the middle of the night.
after use put one good sized scoop on top of your "product " and go back to bed, same theory as the old fashioned earth toilet. Either Kitty litter that contains baking soda or add you own baking soda is best.

As an alternative I recently was looking for a porta jane type device, never found that particular one but if you would like to solve the #1 issue Google pee standing up women plastic or the one I like best from research is pStyle - Stand up and pee with the pStyle | Krista's Cups: pStyles, DivaCups, and more!

That's my 2 cents worth.
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The thought occurs to me, the bacteria stuff they use for septics that you flush down the house toilet once a month is fairly easy to find at least in US, could that be used as a replacement for the chemicals?
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