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Old 26-12-2015, 01:30   #106
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Re: New Zealand Arrival Levy

Bloody hell, i just lost fifty lines on this new tablet...laptop broken.
Mr Cate, im not going to trawl the last half hour of my response to you...suffice to say, i had suspected that you were English
Having been out of Oz 15 of last 23 years ive travellel with, eaten with, people from all nations
And there were often derogatory remarks made by Americans, about THEIR OWN POLITICIANS ...GWB jr.....and so many others...American travellers, air travellers, seemed to always be complaining about their pols. AND after 9/11 so, so many were apologetic/ashamed of the States. Bloody sad state of affairs
Getting sick of this...
I thought i sensed in you an ...no bugger it, had enough of appealing to you
Mr Cate, i thought you were English...you arent...you are American...im glad you are American
Im proud to love America, would fight with/for again
And CF will ban me before i write onother word.
Other than....
You seemed something, didnt know what....you own words say you are defensive am i wish to God you werent SEPPO IS GOOD!!
FINI.
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Old 26-12-2015, 01:38   #107
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FWIW..never heard of the term, or suggestion..."big_idiot_ry...in 69 years on planet earth.All you fellow Strayans who arent familiar with Battle of Coral Sea...should be.
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Old 26-12-2015, 02:03   #108
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No difference whatsoever...but get 12 months in pokey and you'll be on a boat home.... all same the unzudders...


They seem to think we are picking on them but we aren't. I think it is called 'small island syndrome'.
It's getting a bit shallow now, you'll run aground soon now mate.
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Old 26-12-2015, 08:50   #109
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I'm pretty happy I was born an American. Overall, very good, hard working, caring people, with a few exceptions, many of them pols. But that certainly isn't unusual since many of them just pander to the worst in human nature (which has no national boundaries). Happy to be part of the country that helped with the Pacific and European wars, especially to chip in with our Australian and Kiwi mates.

I pay attention to politics more than I should, on an international scope, and Australia and NZed have certainly had their share of idiots (def. - an idiot is anyone I don't agree with ). As an American we seem to be going through one of those phases though with some particularly stupid and dangerous rabble-rousers. History is replete with those. Mostly they help create and feed off of fears of some kinds. It will pass, hopefully, or we will go the path of a German era we all hope we have grown out of.

Regarding Kiwi regulations - try and even consider immigrating to the emerald isles, with more sheep than people. Try getting a doctor appointment. Try working in the country where you have to have a college degree to work as a marine electrician. I admire many things about NZ, so much I would love to live there but that isn't possible unless you have enough money to buy your way in. Money opens all doors. Being a doctor doesn't hurt either but they have trouble keeping them with what they pay them. But all this is only my personal issues, and pretty minor at that. I love my Kiwi friends. They, and aussies, are always welcome in the Yank world. Great sense of humor, deprecating wit, and good drinkers.

In the business world I have personal experience in having to watch for aussie and kiwi shenanigans. They have seemed to develop a fine art in the con - just the same as anywhere. But most, like in the US, are honest and trustworthy as anyone on the planet, and much more than most.
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Old 26-12-2015, 12:13   #110
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America, and only America) has a proud history (since the end of ww2) of rushing to the aid of people and countries less fortunate than themselves.....spending literally trillions of $ on selflessness in the process.
I and many Australians would be Japanese were it not for America.
Forever grateful.
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Old 26-12-2015, 12:32   #111
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I wonder if you asked Tony Bullimore, a good Briton, how he felt about "institutional obesience" (sic) when the Aussie navy rescued him in the Southern Ocean? The British lifeboat folks are truly great at their jobs, but are basically an inshore service. The kiwi navy has repeatedly done far offshore rescues, and done them with great compassion towards the poor yottie and his vessel. I also admire the UK lifeboat guys, but they don't have the equipment nor the manning to do what the Kiwi and Aussie Navy SAR guys do (or the US equivalents or that matter).

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Topic drift I know!

Jim you are so far off the mark with that drivel that it makes me thing you are trolling.

Your comparing chalk and cheese!

Offshore rescue in the UK is handled by the UK Navy much as it is in the colonies and if you can't compare the equipment of Aussie and NZ navies to that of the UK.

If you want to talk about Southern Ocean rescue you had better include Chile and South Africa as very capable parties, the Falkland Islands has RN and Falklands assets available too, that have been involved in rescues that project well over 1000 miles. . Chile in particular has pulled of many rescues in the Drake and off the west coast of South America. Argentina has responsibility but its Navy or Prefectura are in no state to come to the party these days.
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Old 26-12-2015, 13:15   #112
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Topic drift I know!

Jim you are so far off the mark with that drivel that it makes me thing you are trolling.

Your comparing chalk and cheese!

Offshore rescue in the UK is handled by the UK Navy much as it is in the colonies and if you can't compare the equipment of Aussie and NZ navies to that of the UK.

If you want to talk about Southern Ocean rescue you had better include Chile and South Africa as very capable parties, the Falkland Islands has RN and Falklands assets available too, that have been involved in rescues that project well over 1000 miles. . Chile in particular has pulled of many rescues in the Drake and off the west coast of South America. Argentina has responsibility but its Navy or Prefectura are in no state to come to the party these days.
My goodness, that's pretty strong language, little Chay.

Would you please point out where my drivel is so far off the mark?

I made no reference to either South American or South African SAR because they were not the subject that we were discussing, that coupled with my lack of any knowledge of them. I suspect that they do a fine job, too.

My post was specifically in response to bustermaw's statements about British SAR efforts being funded solely by charity rather than government funded services, and his disdain for folks who depended upon such services.

I stand firmly behind my drivel.

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Littlechay.
I am going to assume that your formal education was to at least primary school level.
There was once an empire called "great brittian", That empire disappeared C. 1946.
Once, it comprised so, so many vast and distant lands....Canada, Australia, India to name just a few.
Today, the Welsh are resentful of their dependence, most Scots ditto and a couple of counties in the north of Ireland. Financially dependent are the countries but proud Brits is doubtful.
What was once called G.B. is actually England. England is a great country by any standard sirely.
My point is that it no longer has colonies and you are either dreaming of the good old days ...East India Company...Port Jackson...Burma...or else you r general education needs a little brushing up.
Sorry but true.
RNLI is fantastic, ditto Chiles navy and many others.
Australians are not colonials laddie.
During WW2 America came to our aid. ENGLAND DID NOT NOT because we were at the end of the world and thought of as the bowells.
To suggest JIM Cate was trolling is as far from sanity as Tasmania is from Shetland.
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It's getting a bit shallow now, you'll run aground soon now mate.
She'll be right , Bro, I think they are trying to kedge her off as I write this...

I've been in trouble on CF before for telling 'Strayans they suffer from 'small nation syndrome'...
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Ping youre a funny bastard. Love ya posts.
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My goodness, that's pretty strong language, little Chay.



Would you please point out where my drivel is so far off the mark?



I made no reference to either South American or South African SAR because they were not the subject that we were discussing, that coupled with my lack of any knowledge of them. I suspect that they do a fine job, too.



My post was specifically in response to bustermaw's statements about British SAR efforts being funded solely by charity rather than government funded services, and his disdain for folks who depended upon such services.



I stand firmly behind my drivel.



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Jim it was and is drivel because you were comparing an inshore rescue service with a navy. To get real compare navy with navy.




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My goodness, that's pretty strong language, little Chay.

Would you please point out where my drivel is so far off the mark?

I made no reference to either South American or South African SAR because they were not the subject that we were discussing, that coupled with my lack of any knowledge of them. I suspect that they do a fine job, too.

My post was specifically in response to bustermaw's statements about British SAR efforts being funded solely by charity rather than government funded services, and his disdain for folks who depended upon such services.

I stand firmly behind my drivel.

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I think we have a chalk/cheese issue here.

UK, NZ and Aus have inshore voluntary rescue stuff, RNLI/Coastguard/RVCP, and use their navies offshore.
The US has the USCG which is part of the military and handles both in- and off-shore which is pretty much the same as Chile where the Armada de Chile handles everything.

Of course you can't compare RVCP with Armada de Chile.

LittleChay... is that Campora boat still down at Fipass? Argentine yacht salvaged in the Falklands, effectively had the purpose of showing the flag — MercoPress

Backish on trackish .. Falklands based British Forces rescue cruise passenger injured in South Atlantic — MercoPress
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You've got one hell of a chip on you Sunshine! What's WWII got to do with NZ charging an immigration fee?

Seems your pretty wide of the mark hey.

Spilt your fosters did you ?


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Hi Frank,

I think it's still there as I doubt the owners will want to talk to the Falklands about getting it back

I'm pottering about in Chile at the moment parked in Castro for Christmas.

Will add some stuff to the Cruisers Wiki that you did so much work on while I have internet access.

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Hi, I don't need to explain how the NZ system works down here to someone who has probably never visited and probably (hopefully ) never will.
However if you are going to make the Sheep shagger statements you may find that we are a little more diversified than just sheep. Look up Rutherford , Hillary , Richard Pearce , McLaren and in sailing circles Peter Blake .
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