Originally Posted by BandB
He doesn't get it, won't ever get it. He convinced against his will, remains unconvinced still. He must be right. 100% right. I guess now we understand completely that he only wanted the views of those who agreed with him. He found a couple on shore who he says did. Wonder if their interpretation matches his.
When did I say I was correct and I would always act if I was correct?
I said this very interesting discussion has made me realize there are multiple interpretations that can withstand close scrutiny. I said that I would carefully keep that in mind in the future. I said I would certainly base future actions on the assumption that other interpreted the situation and rules differently than I.
I did say - I believe I was correct but I would certainly behave and operate the boat as if there were another valid interpretation. Which is exactly what I did in the original situation!
It seems to me that the problem is that I do not agree with you 100% and you think that you and only you have the right answer.
A professional captain
who had just passed me with no problem felt the other boat initiated and escalated the problem. He is a very experienced powerboat operator and quite familiar with the channel. I did not solicit his opinion, I did not ask him to talk to the marina manager, and I did not know him except to say hello when this incident occurred.
Two other professional, full time captains, who transit the channel on an almost daily basis agreed with the captain
who passed me.
That is a total of over 60 years experience as captains.
I did not know that a non-involved professional captain had been a witness when I started these threads. Now, I am concerned about the multitude of opinions such as expressed by BandB that those captains who did see me sailing and who did witness the incident or who transit the channel on a daily basis in powerboats and sailboats are all incorrect in their analysis of Rule
13 and Rule
BandB further said:
But then none of us have boated 42 years without ever coming close to colliding with another boat. Of course I guess close in his view is within 3 feet, since obviously 45 feet isn't close. Well, I admit, I've come close as I've had boats cut in front of me where I had to back off and turn. Well, I considered it close and it wasn't even under 45 feet. But then my definition of close is way different than Tacoma's.
That is truly an idiotic statement! The channel is 150' wide - the other boat is on the center line so the maximum possible distance I could be from him (my bow to his port side) would be 49' (75-17-9 my length and his beam) IF I stay hard up against the rocks or the docks.
Are you really saying that I should not have gotten closer than 45 feet? That would mean I would always have to stay within less than my boat length of one side or the other. Your statement leads to the conclusion that no boat can ever sail up or down the channel if another boat is present.
BandB further said:
Do you drive the same way on the road? Guess I learned defensive driving in driver's training and it's stuck with me. Defensive driving principles do still apply on the water. More important than all the Colregs ever written. That is if your true intent is to avoid accidents instead of just being able to argue in court after one.
You may have picked the wrong analogy here!
I was a licensed professional operator of very large over the road vehicles with many years and thousands of miles in big city traffic, small towns, open roads, country roads, mountains, deserts with not a single accident
...in rain, sleet, snow and the dark of night. Not to mention fog
and bad drivers. Out number one priority, and number one incentive pay measure, was safe, defensive driving.
It is my responsibility, as a professional driver, to anticipate any unusual or non-normal situation before it becomes an issue that will cause me a problem. I am expected to make good decisions long before the situation deteriorates.
I enjoyed 5 days a year of recurrent training in the Smith System of defensive driving. We were tested, with a hardass ride along safety
officer, twice a year.
I received annual commendations and bonuses for safe driving.
Why are you so down on my comments?
I did tack away as soon as I understood the other skippers intent. As you will recall
, ??, I did talk to the other skipper
face to face and he did not answer my fairly simple question. Once I understood that he saw the situation differently than I - I did the right thing and tacked away.