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Old 27-08-2013, 18:30   #61
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Honey, its a capitalist republic, not a democracy....

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Old 27-08-2013, 20:41   #62
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SC, I'm in the same boat here! Seems no one what's to hire someone 50ish or more. I'm surviving by temp work and odd jobs . Hang in there!
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SC, I'm in the same boat here! Seems no one what's to hire someone 50ish or more. I'm surviving by temp work and odd jobs . Hang in there!
It happens. The IT folks really have it tough. Though the 20, 30 and 40 somethings need to be better prepared for when they are let go at 50-55. Its the new business model for sure.

I'm just better off as my modest sailboat is payed for and I live small while having million dollar views.
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There are no free lunches
There are plenty of free lunches, if you are properly connected.

That is the root of many problems we face today.
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Old 27-08-2013, 21:19   #65
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Yea, I have a friend that been an IT guys for 30+ years. They laid him off and hired 2 20 something's in his place, but they still kept calling him to fix problems. He helped a couple of times then the next time he told them he would be glad to help then asked where he should send the bill for his $ 150.00/hour consulting fee!
I too have the boat paid for, live modestly, going to finish several projects then head south.meet ya in Panama!
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I don't see how paying for something, and watching others who spend there money on things other then Insurence, get payed for there so called losses first, is wanting a free lunch ! Hell I did not even get any FREE Water LOL I bought that also!! Just sayin some folks are gettin lots of free lunchs !! Thats why my flood Ins is gonna triple in cost!!
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Sorry - if I knew you were um challenged and/or an Ayn Rand groupie I would not have engaged you. My apologies, and don't skip the meds.

Well said, Lake Effect! Only a fool would dare to engage your considerable and well honed philosophical and intellectual skills based in logic, reason and an oceanic depth of education. In regards to the "meds"-- it is why alcohol was invented . . . to temporarily free Man from the reality of the world's ignorance and hopelessness. . . Vodka straight on the rocks with an anchovie olive for an edge. . . I guess I'll make it another day. Good luck, good sailing and . . . don't forget to dry clean that red beret every now and then . . . it surely will help you stand out in a crowd.
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Hey there Mr. Wrong--- my post was not drivel. Appears you failed the debate classes if you got that far. But again, your name is WRONG, maybe it should be WRONG AGAIN
I'll chew on the suggestion. Sort of catchy. Maybe my next handle after disturbing the hall monitors again... Maybe sooner than later?

Drivel is drivel, no matter what you claim it is (was).
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Hugs SailorChic! Hang in there, kid, and don't give up! That resume of yours; make sure it passes a grammatical check as employers get a hint of what you know based upon what you write. I have been in your shoes so many times, but somehow I always managed to dust myself off and ride on a new horse...errr...in a float-plane; perseverance pays. Home Depot and the likes are hiring the middle aged folks and are paying them a working wage with benefits; check them out! Good luck!

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Read "Walden II"...all about Utopia, that does not exists...and saw "Lost Horizon".
Problem. Home Depot is located far from most anchorages, requiring someone who works there to drive a significant distance to work.

Work? Most likely part-time, minimum wage to start. Pay for commute fuel, and rent if you choose to move closer to H.D.? What a joke. Even if you stay on the boat at anchor, you still have to pay the fuel expense...

Just for starts.

Doubt I'll ever make it to your part of Texas, but if your ever in Orange I'll halve a McDouble with you. But, don't come unless you bring my ice cream with husks!
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The IT folks really have it tough. Though the 20, 30 and 40 somethings need to be better prepared for when they are let go at 50-55. Its the new business model for sure.
I'm mid-50's and still finding IT work, but I'm fairly niche, still in a big centre where I have connections. I keep thinking that my current job may be my last. It helps that I'm immature.

Similar to you SC, I've been "cross-training" for boat work, particularly electrical/electronics, since electronics was my profession before Al Gore invented the Inter-tubes.

Hey rognvald - is there navigable water in Galt's Gulch? Also, isn't sailing socialist, since I've done nothing to earn propulsion from the wind?
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Well said, Lake Effect! Only a fool would dare to engage your considerable and well honed philosophical and intellectual skills based in logic, reason and an oceanic depth of education. In regards to the "meds"-- it is why alcohol was invented . . . to temporarily free Man from the reality of the world's ignorance and hopelessness. . . Vodka straight on the rocks with an anchovie olive for an edge. . . I guess I'll make it another day. Good luck, good sailing and . . . don't forget to dry clean that red beret every now and then . . . it surely will help you stand out in a crowd.
Last time I commented about your prose in a post you made I got into trouble with the monitors, so I'll pass. Leave what I may have said this time to your imagination. More fun that way!
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Problem. Home Depot is located far from most anchorages, requiring someone who works there to drive a significant distance to work.
Actually a good point. Now a days working a job, requires at least a car or good public transportation. I ran the numbers and the associated costs of a job, IE Car, insurance, gas, taxes for car, lunch money. It requires a substantial income stream just to support getting to and from work. Add an apartment, utilities, etc, etc and you soon find out your working for everyone else.

So in many ways, living on $5000 a year is not really that much of a hard ship. In fact it can be quite pleasant. The only boss I have is me. I don't have an alarm clock. I sail when I want too and live a simple low impact life. I'm finding that I actually enjoying life lots more then when I was making $100k.

Where before my life was out of balance or Koyaanisqatsi from the Hopi language, I find that a smaller balanced existence suits me far better.

Hum just how far can we take this thread drift... Anyone.

and speaking of sailing... see ya later alligators.. Time to hoist the main sail...
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Hiya Wrong! Which Orange do you live near?; CA, NJ, FL, Netherlands? In the winter months, I'll send you some coconut ice cream with husks in it...my home made specialty. Right now, it's almost 100F/37C in Texas...ice cream won't make it outside my door, let alone in a shipping box. Silly goof!

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Hiya Wrong! Which Orange do you live near?; CA, NJ, FL, Netherlands? In the winter months, I'll send you some coconut ice cream with husks in it...my home made specialty. Right now, it's almost 100F/37C in Texas...ice cream won't make it outside my door, let alone in a shipping box. Silly goof!

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Yeah, it is sorta hot in Texas, ain't it?

Guess I'll have to settle for Ben & Jerry's Chunky Monkey for now.
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"Hey rognvald - is there navigable water in Galt's Gulch? Also, isn't sailing socialist, since I've done nothing to earn propulsion from the wind?"

Isn't Galt's Gulch the Sun City of Chile? I haven't been there but have a good friend whose family, among tens of thousands, left during Allende's Socialist/Communist Reign of Terror. The country today has done well under Free Market Capitalism and is one of the most succesful countries in South America thanks to President Pinera-- a former Economics professor and businessman and god forbid--a billionaire. In response to your second question: sailing is not Socialist since it is not accessible to everyone, there are a wide range of sizes and costs for boats(they're not all forced to be equal in size and cost by the government),some boats are faster than others, some have more equipment than others, some are betting looking than others, some are built better than others,some have BIGGER MASTS than others and some Captains are defintely more skilled than others . . . can't think of a more Evil Capitalist endeavour. Good luck, good sailing, and may the Fountain of Youth bless your days in Galt's Gulch.
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