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Old 08-07-2010, 19:45   #1
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MCA for an SCV Not in Flagged State

For an SCV flagged in BVI (where MCA applies), need MCA be met if the commercial activity never occurs in the BVI? That is the BVI flagged boat operates only in another jurisdiction as a foreign boat, and all regulations are met for that local jurisdiction?
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:32   #2
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I think you will find that the coding needed is determined by the country of registry of the vessel, so if BVI registered MCA would be appropriate
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For an SCV flagged in BVI (where MCA applies), need MCA be met if the commercial activity never occurs in the BVI? That is the BVI flagged boat operates only in another jurisdiction as a foreign boat, and all regulations are met for that local jurisdiction?
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small commercial vessel (scv) = maritime and coast guard agency (mca) you need to meet the requirements of mgn280 m doucument and it is costly
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small commercial vessel (scv) = maritime and coast guard agency (mca) you need to meet the requirements of mgn280 m doucument and it is costly
Ive dug through the MCA stuff, I've seen several references to "boats that operate commercially within BVI waters". So this would include a US flagged boat operating in BVI. But I cant seem to find a specific reference that would include a BVI flagged boat operating elsewhere.
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small commercial vessel (scv) = maritime and coast guard agency (mca) you need to meet the requirements of mgn280 m doucument and it is costly
And how costly is costly? Ive seen some references that say its cheaper to reflag elsewhere...
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Cheaper to reflag?
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Please note I'm not trying to "skim" the rules or dispute them. I've spent a lot of time reading the MCA code and there is a lot of good safety stuff in there. But a lot of the stuff is costly to certify for something I already know is ok (ie stability test).

I'm going to call on Monday but this is an extract from the official application to the BVI Maritime Registry:
"The above regulations apply to ‘small commercial sailing and motor vessels’ which are
Virgin Islands (BVI) vessels; and other (foreign) small commercial sailing and motor vessels to which a relevant ‘Code of Practice’ applies, whilst they are operating from a harbour in the Virgin Islands or are in Virgin Islands (BVI) waters."

Note the last sentence..... We are not proposing to operate with in the territory of the BVI, and our boat will meet all the safety requirements for SCVs in the waters in which it will operate.
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"The above regulations apply to ‘small commercial sailing and motor vessels’ which are
Virgin Islands (BVI) vessels; and other (foreign) small commercial sailing and motor vessels to which a relevant ‘Code of Practice’ applies, whilst they are operating from a harbour in the Virgin Islands or are in Virgin Islands (BVI) waters."
I further realize that some may say that the last clause might only apply to "other (foreign)"... but I believe this clause applies to both BVI and non BVI flagged vessels based on the explicit placing of the ; and the ,. That is the clause applies to both type of flagged vessels, and not just the latter.
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