Maltreatment By Homeland Security

[Kalinka1]

DeepFriz. Criminal code. Shipping regulations. don't remember the sec.#s Police need RPG or found comitting under the code to stop you for other than "safety checks" if it's for a safety check then invite them to follow you to your destination and then welcome them aboard. If it is recorded then you and they are protected if something gets damaged or someone injured. You wouldn't get away with it in a flat calm though!

[micah719]

Thanks for the inspiration for another idea: covert cctv recording various parts of vessel. Can also be fitted with motion detector for times when the boat is unattended....perhaps one can catch the dinghy/rigging thieves that way too. Worst case, someone finds the boat with recorded evidence of what happened aboard after the sailor pushed the "record" button.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by delmarrey

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BTW Carrying ANY type of prescription medication outside of the original bottle is illegal. The correct way to carry your prescription: Straight from the DEA | Pharmer.org

Thanks... I did not know that. You have no idea how I long for the days (not that long ago) where one could drive to the border, wave a driver's license as you roll past, and get waved through.

In Europe there are not even border stations on most borders, with free flow back and forth. We in North America seemed to have gone the other way.

[xymotic]

All of you guys that think this is a homeland security issue are sorely mistaken. I've been stopped and illegally searched 3 times in my little RV by small-town washington police dressed head to toe in swat gear.

My crime in a nutshell is that I'm very poor.

[senormechanico]

Friends of ours, former cruisers moved from California to San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico.
They denounced their USA citizenship and have never looked back.
They are very happy with their decision which was made about 5 years ago.

[Lagoon4us]

Spoke to a German guy last week, him and his wife were on their way to Greece, AIS was on, it was a pleasant night they were under sail enjoying the evening.

He noticed a bright light above becoming brighter, a rope dropped off his Stb quarter from above and a marine slid down into the water, he called to the chopper via his VHF to no avail.

4 More men slid down into the water as he pulled away. It was a training exercise he learned later, it was performed by Swedes who contract to the Greek Government as the Greeks are incapable.

He was told that his AIS signal was all they needed to home in on and complete a pretend boarding, scared him shitless at the time but compared to this thread it was probably preferable!

The Cat was a Lagoon 440....

Cheers

[micah719]

Albro359:

ANZUS/TPP. Only a matter of time before even the south seas are not so peachy anymore; the Pax Americana will be found necessary even in the far south Pacific. Maybe to combat the penguin smuggling trade, or those heinous suicide-bombing opium-growing Antarcticans. Or, when China cashes in the bonds and finds handover of their property a little problematic. You don't think they're so keen on blue-water because they read CF threads, do you?

[avb3]

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[micah719]

In Europe there are not even border stations on most borders, with free flow back and forth.

Carefully and discreetly monitored free flow. And should the need arise, no flow at all. It's happened many times before, with far less capability to lock down populations; when (not if) it's time again, new records will be set.

[forsailbyowner]

I've talked to cpb, they were very interested to find if it was one of they're boats which it wasn't. All I could tell in the dark cloudy night is it was a large vhull with lots of engines on the transom. The people I talked to from the coast guard and customs were not happy with my account of the boarding and ernestly are trying to locate the officers who partook. I've received 4 phone calls from various agencies asking for details.

[Mike OReilly]

Canada is not immune from this increased border paranoia. We were stopped by Canada Border Service (or could have been RCMP) last summer while sailing in a very remote part of Lake Superior. They came out of no where in their zippy boat, and then pulled up beside us. Well armed, very serious looking. We were not boarded, perhaps b/c we were sailing and the conditions were not great for a transfer, but were questioned.

In the end, the main guy seemed more interested in learning about our Aries windvane, but the fact that they were patrolling an area so remote -- an area that probably doesn't seem more than a few dozen boats ALL SEASON -- really struck me as amazing (and not in a good way).

[xymotic]

Cuban Navy? Columbian Cartel? Made you dump the pill cuz they were looking for bales?

[captain58sailin]

What would be fun is if you could catch them sneaking up on you and call in an SOS with the USCG, I would be interested to learn how that would get handled.

[s/v Beth]

Now that is a scary thought. Maybe it was the bad guys looking to intercept some drugs they knew were going that direction. The Caribbean is not what it used to be, even five years ago.

[hellosailor]

Being accosted by armed men who show no ID is a perfectly good reason to set off a distress call.

Let the nice GungHo's explain themselves to the responders.