Keeping a Proper Lookout -- A Cautionary Tale

[weavis]

Originally Posted by DeepFrz

Hang over the side for a whiz and you are likely to be seen on a mortuary slab sooner, rather than later. Bucket as mentioned above or one of the pilot products are much safer and will not stop you from keeping a good lookout.

I have a short safety leash JUST FOR MY COCKPIT that JUST goes to the railings. Cant go over and cant go in. You will have to design one just for yours. Never did see the point in having a line that allowed you to get wet. If going forward, will have to change safety lines.

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

This really shook me up. Maybe AIS alarms could be set with different parameters in ports, rather than switching them off. That can't be done easily on my system.

Evans started a thread a while ago: "Please turn off your AIS when at your dock..." or something like that. Dockhead, you're right, inshore and in highly trafficed areas, it's an issue. IIRC, some repsondents to Evans' topic mentioned adjustable alarm parameters.

[deblen]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

I don't go below if something is that close. Plus my AIS alarm should sound

You are assuming the other vessel has AIS.

[deblen]

Originally Posted by StuM

This! When other vessels are in sight, there should ALWAYS be SOMEONE keeping a lookout. If you're single handing, p*ss in the scuppers or wherever, but don't go below for any non-emergency.

I think you might be onto something here.

Relying on radar or AIS alarms when you are in a busy channel & have another vessel in sight by eye,radar,AIS,or Spidy senses-& you leave the helm??? Really?

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by georgetheleo
ALL single handing sailors--whether overnighting or circumnavigating---disobey this RULE ALL! no radar or AIS complies with the rule--- which says PROPER! only eyeballs are PROPER.... (and dont give me a bunch of crap otherwise you idiots!)

Originally Posted by weavis

You know, I dont mind you disagreeing. I really dont. I dont even mind you having your singular viewpoint right or wrong as it may be.

I dont mind being told that I did an idiotic thing, but somehow I object to being called an idiot. Its not nice. It doesnt gel with the flow of a discussion. You can think it, Ive found myself thinking it over people a few times, maybe even you, but to be nice, Ive let it go many times.

You can apologise or I can assume you have assumed the higher ground and are prepared to assume the mantle of a Godlike one and reduced to hurling denunciations. Im grateful you dont have any weapons given your lack of self control way up there.

Either way, for what its worth, probably nothing given my classification, Ive lost respect for your ability to be rational when involved in a discussion. Its a shame but of your making.

I couldn't agree more.

For George, the unusually rude poster: there was a great discussion earlier this month about what constitutes "PROPER".

IIRC, the use of all available techniques was suggested to be the most reasonable.

One example: a dark and stormy night: Mark I eyeballs can't stand up to radar and/or AIS for identifying and tracking other vessels.

If ALL proper means ONLY eyeballs, sorry, your point is simply incorrect and meaningless.

Why not learn to play nice, huh?

[MarkJ]

Does this thread just keep going on and on live a sailors forum whist spending the eternity in hell?

Good grief, Charlie Brown.

[Jon Eisberg]

Originally Posted by weavis

I have a short safety leash JUST FOR MY COCKPIT that JUST goes to the railings. Cant go over and cant go in. You will have to design one just for yours. Never did see the point in having a line that allowed you to get wet. If going forward, will have to change safety lines.

However, for someone like me - who rarely wears a harness or is clipped on when in the cockpit or in benign conditions - I just find picking this little gizmo up far more convenient than having to don a harness and tether simply to take a leak ;-)





In addition, when sailing in crowded waters or in close proximity to other boats, it permits one to be a bit more 'discrete' than when standing in full view at the rail while performing a function so easily recognizable even from a considerable distance...

;-)

[monte]

Hard to imagine what the ball on the string is for, but I think I saw a show like that in Thailand

[Jon Eisberg]

Originally Posted by monte

Hard to imagine what the ball on the string is for, but I think I saw a show like that in Thailand

LOL! Yeah, I suppose that might be a bit confounding if you've never used one... :-)

When tossed over the side for a 'rinse', the cup might 'skip' across the water's surface for a bit, before catching and filling - sometimes with a surprising amount of force, given the whole thing is barely heavier than a feather... So, the stopper helps prevent the lanyard from being snatched free from your hand...

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg

However, for someone like me - who rarely wears a harness or is clipped on when in the cockpit or in benign conditions - I just find picking this little gizmo up far more convenient than having to don a harness and tether simply to take a leak ;-)





In addition, when sailing in crowded waters or in close proximity to other boats, it permits one to be a bit more 'discrete' than when standing in full view at the rail while performing a function so easily recognizable even from a considerable distance...

;-)

Well, after watching my drunk sailing partner, in calm conditions, heave both his manhood and self over the side and finding it REALLY hard to get him back in the boat for laughing so hard, I ALWAYS put the leash on when whizzing over the side.

If in proximity of others, on the Centaur, I will sit down and whizz into the drain and flush with water.

Also, Im of an age where from a distance, I dont care what people think.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg

LOL! Yeah, I suppose that might be a bit confounding if you've never used one... :-)

When tossed over the side for a 'rinse', the cup might 'skip' across the water's surface for a bit, before catching and filling - sometimes with a surprising amount of force, given the whole thing is barely heavier than a feather... So, the stopper helps prevent the lanyard from being snatched free from your hand...

Yes John.........

[weavis]

Originally Posted by monte

Hard to imagine what the ball on the string is for, but I think I saw a show like that in Thailand

I think I saw the same show................

[weavis]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

Does this thread just keep going on and on live a sailors forum whist spending the eternity in hell?

Good grief, Charlie Brown.

OK, I just checked the whole thread and did not find a post from Charlie Brown.

However, opinions will always be divided on written regs. It keeps lawyers in business

[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg

However, for someone like me - who rarely wears a harness or is clipped on when in the cockpit or in benign conditions - I just find picking this little gizmo up far more convenient than having to don a harness and tether simply to take a leak ;-)





In addition, when sailing in crowded waters or in close proximity to other boats, it permits one to be a bit more 'discrete' than when standing in full view at the rail while performing a function so easily recognizable even from a considerable distance...

;-)

And when the crew is bored on watch, they can always play a little game of "Cup and Ball" to while away the hours.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by weavis

OK, I just checked the whole thread and did not find a post from Charlie Brown.

However, opinions will always be divided on written regs. It keeps lawyers in business

With only 59 posts this thread has a very long way to go before attaining zombie status....