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31-12-2015, 07:07
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Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
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Gulf of Mexico crossing.
I am planning a sailing trip from Key West to Brownsville, TX. The chart says a rhumb line takes us through Mexican national waters at approximately 26.20, -86.20 and beyond. Should I plan to divert around this and stay in U.S. waters, get permits from Mexico, US? Does this thing have a name? Looks like it has something to do with the Yucatan Peninsula.
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31-12-2015, 07:19
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
Permits?
Just sail across and leave it at that...
Or if you really want to cover your bases, upon arrival call customs and immigration to check in..you've technically left the country, but I'll bet a courtesy call is all that they'll want.
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31-12-2015, 11:19
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
Kind of like USVI/BVI? They look at you like you're crazy if you actually follow protocol.
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31-12-2015, 11:51
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
Course KW to Brownsville, unless you make a serious deviation south, you will not be in the territorial waters of Mexico but the EEZ (exclusive economic zone) which relates to fishing and mineral rights.
No one will notice or care unless you stop to explore for oil or do some commercial scale fishing on the way.
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31-12-2015, 12:06
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
Maybe getting advice from the customs page makes sense
Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements
Pursuant to 19 CFR 4.2, operators of small pleasure vessels, arriving in the United States from a foreign port or place to include any vessel which has visited a hovering vessel or received merchandise outside the territorial sea, are required to report their arrival to CBP immediately (see 19 U.S.C. 1433).
Exceptions to Face-to-Face reporting to CBP
Any small pleasure vessel leaving a United States port into international or foreign waters, without a call at a foreign port, does not satisfy the foreign departure requirement. Therefore, certain fishing vessels, cruises to nowhere, or any vessel that leaves from a United States port and returns without calling a foreign port or place, has not departed the United States.
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01-01-2016, 07:35
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
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Originally Posted by cal40john
Maybe getting advice from the customs page makes sense
Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements
Pursuant to 19 CFR 4.2, operators of small pleasure vessels, arriving in the United States from a foreign port or place to include any vessel which has visited a hovering vessel or received merchandise outside the territorial sea, are required to report their arrival to CBP immediately (see 19 U.S.C. 1433).
Exceptions to Face-to-Face reporting to CBP
Any small pleasure vessel leaving a United States port into international or foreign waters, without a call at a foreign port, does not satisfy the foreign departure requirement. Therefore, certain fishing vessels, cruises to nowhere, or any vessel that leaves from a United States port and returns without calling a foreign port or place, has not departed the United States.
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LOL - you mean I don't have to report in to customs every time we poke our nose out of San Diego Bay and get the "welcome to Mexico" texts on our phone?
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01-01-2016, 10:44
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Location: Bay of Fundy,Grand Manan,N.B.,Canada N44.40 W66.50
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
It is called "the right of innocent passage".
You can pass thru a foreign country's waters as long as you don't land & as long as you follow the rules of innocent passage.
It happens all the time in border areas.
Note: If you are carrying firearms or other contraband & Mexico boards you...... I don't know.
Maritime Security: The Concept of Innocent Passage
Have a good trip / Len
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01-01-2016, 10:57
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Boat: Selene 43 Ocean Trawler
Posts: 10
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Re: Gulf of Mexico crossing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by canyonbat
LOL - you mean I don't have to report in to customs every time we poke our nose out of San Diego Bay and get the "welcome to Mexico" texts on our phone?
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Darn, and I was beginning to enjoy all those calls! (Great response to the question - thanks).
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