Flag Etiquette Question

[Prairie Chicken]

Nope. Quebec have a fleur de lei.

Wasn't that the UK Merchant Marine ensign as from the Wiki link?

[carstenb]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

No, LOL, you found the Union Jack. The one in the corner is not the Union Jack, it is missing the red diagonal cross for Ireland. The flag in the corner is the flag of Great Britain, but I have no idea what this is called when put on a red background.

Scrap all that, further down the page you provided a link to, they show the flag of Great Britain. Yep, that's it . But I never knew this was a valid flag to fly from the flagstaff.

Really further down - it is the Merchant Navy Flag so now everyone is totally confused

[Seaworthy Lass]

I followed DoubleWhiskey's link and found this:

"The flag's official use came to an end in 1801 with the creation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. At that time Saint Patrick's Flag was added to the flag of Great Britain to create the present-day Union Flag."

Crew a little behind the times?

[DoubleWhisky]

Originally Posted by carstenb

Really further down - it is the Merchant Navy Flag so now everyone is totally confused

Merchant Marine Ensign includes the St. Patrick cross!
Only flag without it I can find is:

Flag of Great Britain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

now defunct, in limited use in Canada only:

Union Jack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Blue Crab

Here's the ad I'm seeing under this last post:

Strange.... This is the Photo that comes up when I click on it....

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont...EANFREEDOM.jpg


Must be a hemispherical thing...

[carstenb]

here is the merchant navy flag (from wiki)

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by Prairie Chicken

Wasn't that the UK Merchant Marine ensign as from the Wiki link?

Originally Posted by carstenb

Really further down - it is the Merchant Navy Flag so now everyone is totally confused

OK, where are you guys reading this? I have gone cross eyed (no pun intended) looking at the link and can't find where it says it is the current Merchant Navy Flag.

Anyone dare me to swim over and ask why they are flying this flag?

[carstenb]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

OK, where are you guys reading this? I have gone cross eyed (no pun intended) looking at the link and can't find where it says it is the current Merchant Navy Flag.

Anyone dare me to swim over and ask why they are flying this flag?

Only if you wear your Union Jack bikini

here's the link to wiki

Union Jack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by carstenb

Only if you wear your Union Jack bikini

Will my itsy bitsy teeny weeny red and white stripe with a red polka dot frill do?

Originally Posted by carstenb

here's the link to wiki
Union Jack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have that link LOL . I just can't find the bit that says this is the current Merchant marine ensign.

[carstenb]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

Will my itsy bitsy teeny weeny red and white stripe with a red polka dot frill do?



I have that link LOL . I just can't find the bit that says this is the current Merchant marine ensign.

all depends on just how itsy bitsy teeny weeny it is and also if you're sending pictures

How about this for an explanation?

Ensigns[edit]
Main article: British ensigns
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This section does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (May 2011)
The Union Flag can be found in the canton of several of the ensigns flown by vessels and aircraft of the United Kingdom and its overseas territories. These are used in cases where it is illegal to fly the Union Flag, such as at sea from a ship other than a British warship. Normal practice for UK ships is to fly the White ensign (Royal Navy) or the Red ensign (Merchant and private boats). Similar ensigns are used by other countries (such as New Zealand and Australia) with the Union Flag in the canton. Other countries (such as India and Jamaica) follow similar ensign etiquette as the UK, replacing the Union Flag with their own national flag.

Red cross on white background,Union Flag as top-left quarter.
Royal Navy White Ensign.
Solid red flag with Union Flag as top-left quarter.
The Merchant Navy Ensign.

[DoubleWhisky]

Originally Posted by carstenb

here is the merchant navy flag (from wiki)

And this bears UNION FLAG not (defunct) GREAT BRITAIN FLAG

[DoubleWhisky]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

Anyone dare me to swim over and ask why they are flying this flag?

Go, Lass, go!!!

Swim, swim, swim!!!

[carstenb]

I stand corrected.

Jim Cate has probably fallen asleep for all this .

[Hoofsmit]

#61

I stand corrected..... From the link

(See 'The Official Website of the British Monarchy')[1]. It has been claimed that "Union Jack" was the name given to the flag flown on the "jack staff" of ships of the Royal Navy. However, the flag existed long before ships had jack-staffs, so it is more likely that the jack-staff is named after the flag.
Graham Bartram (born 18 July 1963), a British vexillologist who is currently (2013) the Secretary-General for Congresses of the Fédération internationale des associations vexillologiques and the Chief Vexillologist of the Flag Institute, when interviewed on the BBC Broadcasting House programme on 13th October 2013, stated that either name was perfectly valid whatever the purpose. He stated that the theory that the flag should only be referred to as Union Jack when flown at sea was wrong .[2]


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[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by carstenb

all depends on just how itsy bitsy teeny weeny it is and also if you're sending pictures

Will this do?