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Old 23-04-2013, 19:03   #1
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Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

Well this will get interesting as to who is at fault. All I know is it is not a good idea to run into a Canadian Navy ship.
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

They obviously didn't get the memo

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Old 23-04-2013, 19:21   #3
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

Love the commentary from the video… Eh~

Looks like Trawler had a problem with its reversing gear.. (probably variable pitch) and ended up driving in at speed.

Wonder if there was a Canadian Pilot on board?

Even if so, "Pilot's Advice Captain's Orders"
If a technical failure...... Insurance is on the hook unless not manned by licensed skipper or they were drunk
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

The news report makes it sound like the trawler was "not under Command". The article said it was being towed into a shipyard.

Having a pilot on board makes it sound like the vessel was able to manuver under its own power, of course this could have been a requirement of the ship yard to to have a "Pilot" on board to get the vessel in the dry dock utilizing the tugs.

It will be interesting to see if it had propulsion or steering and why the two tugs abandoned the vessel.
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

Another report, with a shot of the notch in the trawler's bow.
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

Canada has a Navy eh?
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Canada has a Navy eh?
I wasn't going to comment on this but...what the eh!!!
My father spent his youth in the Canadian Navy on the North Atlantic chasing U-boats and protecting Allied supply ships. Then some time in the Korean War defending UN forces, and ended his 30 year career in the RCN, patrolling the Pacific Northwest playing war with USSR submarines.

When I asked him recently if he saw any episodes of "Sea Patrol". He replied, "Eh???"
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Calm down, what part of Ontario are you in, I lived in Ottawa for a while, and a time in Guelph.
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Sorry mate, caught me on a bad day. My dad is nearing a long life and the sea was a big part of his life.

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You Kiwis are always saying that.
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Re: Fishing Trader runs into Canadian Navy ship

The unhappy part of this exercise in physics is that the Winniped had just undergone a costly refit as it is over 20 years old and has been sequentially deployed on various "wars on terror" for many years. We have to get full pop from our ships as we tend not to just print more money to have new ones built.

Yes, my late father also spent WWII at sea, as a teenaged mate in the British Merchant Navy. He was impressed enough with the Canadians he met during and after the war to emigrate here in the '50s.
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The news report makes it sound like the trawler was "not under Command". The article said it was being towed into a shipyard.

Having a pilot on board makes it sound like the vessel was able to manuver under its own power, of course this could have been a requirement of the ship yard to to have a "Pilot" on board to get the vessel in the dry dock utilizing the tugs.

It will be interesting to see if it had propulsion or steering and why the two tugs abandoned the vessel.
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Latest report said it was undocking from Seaspan DryDock.
In video, I could see strong prop wash from ship, so I still suspect a variable pitch malfunction, either with prop indicator lights or some linkage..??
….Looks like it may have caused skipper to panic and apply excessive throttle, thinking he was in Astern, with all the undocking confusion,.

It is normal for tug assist when departing a dry dock, as you don’t want the ship to use astern propulsion anywhere near the docking blocks.
Once clear, tug will help to turn if in tight quarters and is there in case of a problem with engines or steering.
Of note, experienced tug boat operator will always have control of tow line to quickly let go in case ship overwhelms them….I don’t think they had any choice in this case but to let go when they had a runaway ship.

In any case, it was a Seaspan Tug… same owner of Drydock…. Who happens to be an interesting American (Dennis Washington)… So between the fish boat owner and the Yard…this was definitely an all American screw-up… eh?

A little about Dennis Washington..
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