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Old 30-08-2010, 22:01   #76
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Thorin, the problem with a hidden compartment is that if you are a US citizen on a US-flagged boat, the USCG require you to register those compartments (or at least did require) and there's a statutory penalty simply for failing to do so. Even if they are empty. That's from the zero-tolerance days on the 80s'.

And then, no matter who you are or where you are, if some nice gent in a uniform finds a hidden compartment--you've just qualified for a full strip search, down to the keel, because everyone knows [sic] hidden compartments are predominently used by smugglers. Gonna make life real tough on yourself, if you think you can hide better than they can seek.

There are some places that don't allow weapons. Others will arrest you for carrying liquor, condoms, or pornography. If you want to go there...you know the choices.

And do remember, "In strict conformance with United States Naval policy, I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of any nuclear weapons on board this vessel."
I had no idea. What constitues a "hidden" compartment? I would guess it's a discretionary (or lack there of) thing.
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Are you aware that Thunder Bay Ontario isn't in the US?

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Folks let's not forget that this is an internationally attended forum.

The original topic is "Firearm Regulations by Country."

This includes the US but also includes a lot of other countries.

Please let us not devolve into a US-centric 2nd amendment discussion. We don't do politics here at CF.
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so not being happy with the jail term associated with having a firearm, you want to add gun running to the charges, my advice dont go cruising, or youll never walk around with that Glock again. ( Its a US thing right..)

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The only gun I own that I see being a problem is my Glock. I need to find out how the Canadian government would react to me having it on my boat once I move onto the water. Right now I can carry it anywhere I want on my own land and walk around with it tucked in my waist band like a gangster in my house, (i dont but it feels good to know i could be stupid if i wanted to be) but I have to file a travel plan to take it from my families farm back to my house or from my house to the gun range.
I was reading the firearm act and it talks about transporting a restricted weapon "between two locations" which you are not really doing on the boat ... until it leaves the boat. I had thought there might be a reference to "usual place of dwelling" which comes up in fishing and hunting regulations but there wasn't such a mention. You can process fish on your boat if you are living on it but otherwise you can't (within certain definitions). I suspect when living on your boat it's treated like your home but the easy answer is to contact the RCMP and see what there take on this is.
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That's not really the issue/topic here.

This is more of a "how too" thread, taking into account moving from one country to another and the issues that arise with firearms in such travels.

Presumably those interested in how to transport successfully have moved beyond the *to use or not to use* question.
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Again, We are not really addressing the decision to carry firearms or not. The issue is national requirements to bring them into and out of those nations.
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Canada is pretty straight forward as probably already mentioned, the rules clearly say, leave the blowgun at home. When hunting grizzly we want it to be a fair fight so no blowguns.
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havin much trouble with grizzlies on yer boat?
Not once I've had my morning coffee .... I'm a little bearish until then,
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heh. I've had that bear aboard...

Himself with no coffee is NOT a pretty sight... might make me consider carrying a gun... ; -)
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OK folks...

Last warning. If this thread doesn't get back on the topic of the regulations carrying firearms into and out of various countries we're gonna close it.

We don't do "Whether I have the right too whether it's a good idea."
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Thanks* to all those who have contributed to the ruination of what could have been a factually useful thread, relevant and important to international cruisers contemplating (or actually) carrying firearms aboard.

* Yes, that’s bitter sarcasm.
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Actually Gord, What you are trying to do is laudable, but in reality there is only one way that this type of info can be constructed

(a) Research in depth each country and ask for a consulate reply
(B) Then find someone whoese actually done and can relate what actually happened. ( it is in fact worth nothing, that in all the "gun threads" I havent actually seen any real life descriptions, of guns and international crusiing, which makes me suspect that their arnty many doing it and thoses that are probably not following the rules and keeping stum).

The task in my opinion cant be done by internet searchs

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in all the "gun threads" I havent actually seen any real life descriptions, of guns and international crusiing, which makes me suspect that their arnty many doing it and thoses that are probably not following the rules and keeping stum).
Or could be that those who have them onboard legally simply have more sense than to shout about it on the internet? (but I wouldn't bet on it )

But in any event I can see the difficulty of providing up to date advice - how about simply a list of links for each country giving a suggested first point(s) of official contact (weblinks? / e-mails?) for each person to then do their own research from?

Possibly also a brief note saying whether guns onboard as a Visitor are possible (leaving aside whether easy to acheive or needed) or are strictly verbotten (shot on sight? ) or is known that the requirements are confusing and ever changing with no certainty that today's approval will still be good for tommorow.

And plaster it all with Caveats and don't blame me disclaimers
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