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Old 18-08-2015, 20:41   #1
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Bahamaspress.com » Arrest of Foreign Vessel “Mia”

Coral Harbour Base, 17 August 2015 (RBDF): Her Majesty’s Bahamian Ship P-44 apprehended a foreign pleasure yacht for failing to declare the firearms it had on board at its first port of entry on Tuesday 11th August 2015.
While on patrol P-44 carried out a routine boarding of the United States registered 86-foot Eagle Yacht named, “Mia” in the area of Highbourne Cay in the Exumas. The vessel had ten persons on board
Also found aboard were two undeclared firearms–one Springfield Armoury .45 automatic colt pistol (ACP) with 105 rounds, and one Glock 19 9mm pistol with 74 rounds.
Defence Force Marines subsequently arrested the occupants and the vessel escorted to the capital where they were handed over to Bahamas Customs authority for further processing. As a result of the incident, the Master of the vessel was fined a sum of ten thousand dollars, also the weapons along with the ammunition was seized by the Customs Comptroller for breach of Customs Regulations
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Old 18-08-2015, 23:18   #2
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If this post was intended to drum up sympathy for those folks, it has failed big time. They got exactly what they deserved IMO. Cruisers who flaunt local rules/laws make it harder for all t hose who follow in their wakes, whether or not they themselves follow the rules.

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Well since I posted it , it was simply an fyi. Not intended to anything but reinforce that violating laws has consequences. Not sure why anyone would view it as being sympathetic...

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Sounds like they got off pretty light to me. Smuggling concealable weapons into a foreign country is a serious offence, they should have french kissed Bahamian customs for not locking them up.

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Ironically the Bahamian Government and the ship P-44 could not have accomplished this without guns.
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Sounds like they got off pretty light to me. Smuggling concealable weapons into a foreign country is a serious offence, they should have french kissed Bahamian customs for not locking them up.
Smuggling??? Being a little hyperbolic aren't we? Two handguns with 100 rounds is not smuggling...it's protection.
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Ironically the Bahamian Government and the ship P-44 could not have accomplished this without guns.
You obviously have not seen the size of the defense force officers. They average the size of our NFL linemen!
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Smuggling??? Being a little hyperbolic aren't we? Two handguns with 100 rounds is not smuggling...it's protection.

It's protection in the US where we have the right to bear arms. In the Bahamas the laws of their country prohibit arms. Therefore bringing in arms against their laws (or circumventing their laws) is smuggling.



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Smuggling??? Being a little hyperbolic aren't we? Two handguns with 100 rounds is not smuggling...it's protection.
If it was a couple of Yemeni gentlemen taking Kalishnakovs overseas by boat into Manhattan would it be protection or smuggling?

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That P-44 left the dock? I thought that was for show, like the USS Hornet or maybe the USS Bowfin!
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You obviously have not seen the size of the defense force officers. They average the size of our NFL linemen!

So, are they unarmed?

If so the crew of the Mia were very civilized in not ordering the crew of the P-44 off their boat at gunpoint.
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It's protection in the US where we have the right to bear arms. In the Bahamas the laws of their country prohibit arms. Therefore bringing in arms against their laws (or circumventing their laws) is smuggling.
Agreed, the mistake was not declaring the two guns upon entering another country. A fine for not declaring a fire arm is one thing...smuggling? Really?

NYC would consider it smuggling also...exactly why I live in Texas.
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Not true at all. The Bahamian government is armed.
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Not true at all. The Bahamian government is armed.
Always fascinates me that governments can use guns to protect their interest but their citizens are not allowed the same rights. Makes you go "ummm"
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If it was a couple of Yemeni gentlemen taking Kalishnakovs overseas by boat into Manhattan would it be protection or smuggling?

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