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Old 13-03-2015, 08:47   #1
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Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

Happy Friday. I attempted to reach out to the Coast Guard National Vessel Documentation Center with this question but they must be super busy today. Finding a clear answer via Google search this also proved difficult. So I now turn to the CF Brain Trust to rummage around its sea chest of wisdom:

The certificate of documentation on my recently purchased vessel needs to be re-documented. However, I noticed that the current certificate expires April 30, 2015. My question is: Does the re-documentation come with a new issue date (and therefore a new expiration date) or do I need to submit a separate application for certificate renewal? Not the most exciting of threads but I appreciate any input.
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Re: Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

Yes, when you transfer documentation from the PO, you should get a new issue/expiration date. Now's the time to change the name of the boat if you want to.
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Happy Friday. I attempted to reach out to the Coast Guard National Vessel Documentation Center with this question but they must be super busy today. Finding a clear answer via Google search this also proved difficult. So I now turn to the CF Brain Trust to rummage around its sea chest of wisdom:

The certificate of documentation on my recently purchased vessel needs to be re-documented. However, I noticed that the current certificate expires April 30, 2015. My question is: Does the re-documentation come with a new issue date (and therefore a new expiration date) or do I need to submit a separate application for certificate renewal? Not the most exciting of threads but I appreciate any input.
Your new certificate will be issued with a new date. It could be before or after the date of the old one from your seller. Since CG will send renewal notice to the old owner 30 days prior to expiration you should file preferably before April 30. When I was documenting my understanding was that most US authorities are OK with "documentation pending" status as long as you have all the supporting docs on board. Not sure about outside the US though.
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Yes, when you transfer documentation from the PO, you should get a new issue/expiration date. Now's the time to change the name of the boat if you want to.
You mean without paying the extra fees?
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Re: Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

Our certificate was renew when we submitted for re-documentation. We submitted for re-doc in September. When we finally got the certificate in January (when we would normally renew) it had been automatically. Hope that helps. It took a really long time for the re-doc.


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Our certificate was renew when we submitted for re-documentation. We submitted for re-doc in September. When we finally got the certificate in January (when we would normally renew) it had been automatically. Hope that helps. It took a really long time for the re-doc.


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Happy Friday. I attempted to reach out to the Coast Guard National Vessel Documentation Center with this question but they must be super busy today. Finding a clear answer via Google search this also proved difficult. So I now turn to the CF Brain Trust to rummage around its sea chest of wisdom:

The certificate of documentation on my recently purchased vessel needs to be re-documented. However, I noticed that the current certificate expires April 30, 2015. My question is: Does the re-documentation come with a new issue date (and therefore a new expiration date) or do I need to submit a separate application for certificate renewal? Not the most exciting of threads but I appreciate any input.
If you just bought the boat you have to have the documentation changed to your name, address, etc. This is not the same as a renewal.

If you want to make this as painless as possible, there are companies that will handle the entire transaction for a reasonable fee. Do a web search to find one. The documentation company can send you a letter to use until your actual new documentation certificate arrives.

Or, you can try to muddle through the process yourself if you can figure it out.
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Re: Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

Thanks everybody! Still trying to come up with the new name as well...part of the reason I have been putting off the re-doc!
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Re: Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

I purchased a documented boat last year. The transfer process was fairly straightforward but retained the same renewal date. I must renew this year. Maybe I did something wrong!


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do you have to fool with coast guard if you build a boat at home. I am building a 17 foot coresound 17 from Band B yatch out of nc. I am in ga but going to get hull number in al because ga has all kinds of rules I was under inpresion it is all about money I have a john boat registered in al they just want a tag nothing else plan on learning to sail and them maybe buy a bigger boat 25-30 feet
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Floyd, with regard to documentation, the vessel must be at least 5 net tons. A custom build boat is subject to the standard regulations just as a production boat is. If you intents to insure the vessel, more requirements will be added from the insurer side.

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Looks like a fun build Floyd!
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Re: Does a Coast Guard Certificate Re-documentation Renew the Certificate?

Just went through this last year. There is a FAQ at the USCG site on this and I think it has the answers you need. We used a documentation service but if all I needed was the new documentation I would not do it for that reason alone. It is very easy. You need the proper bill of sale and just send it in with the fee. It does take several weeks (months). In the "pending" period you just need to have the prior documentation, the bill of sale, etc. to prove you own the boat. Unless you are going overseas I don't think anyone really cares if you are documented or not, except your state if you don't have to register a documented vessel. In WA they are OK with the pending process.

As noted also, if you want to change the vessel name and/or hailing port do it with the documentation process now. If you change either later you will have to get a doc change + fee.
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do you have to fool with coast guard if you build a boat at home. I am building a 17 foot coresound 17 from Band B yatch out of nc. I am in ga but going to get hull number in al because ga has all kinds of rules I was under inpresion it is all about money I have a john boat registered in al they just want a tag nothing else plan on learning to sail and them maybe buy a bigger boat 25-30 feet
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You have to register your boat in GA and if you use your jon boat in GA, you have to register that as well.
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