"Digital searches" in New Zealand

[Cyrus Safdari]

Allow me to correct a misconception folks: Fellow Americans, there is NO requirement for a warrant or court order or even "probably cause" to search you and your boat at the border -- and your computer/cell phone info. There is no constitutional issue there.

Furthermore, there is no search warrant or probably cause requirement for a search of your vessel once inside US waters either. A boat is not treated as a house, even if you're living on it. The Coast Guard can enter your vessel at any time and go through it.
The "War on Drugs" made swiss cheese of many of the limitations on search and seizure long ago

[john61ct]

The Constitutional issue remains.

Just requires a wiser citizenry to restore our civil rights.

Certainly will not stay the same, either going to ger better, or continue to get a lot worse.

[RaymondR]

Just part of the general trend of weakening civil rights in western countries. In Australia they are working on reducing the double jeopardy protections.

Do they do the other type of digital searches in New Zealand?

[jasbee]

NZ does not have a constitution.

[SV DestinyAscen]

Originally Posted by jasbee

NZ does not have a constitution.

New Zealand most definitely have a constitution - it is an uncodified like the UK and Canada - but just because it doesn't share the US version of a written constitution (or the People's Republic of China), doesn't make it a reign by decree society.

[GRIT]

SVDestiny makes a good point, though Canada does have a charter of rights and freedoms, in writing, since 1982. It's part of our constitution, but most of it is as he says.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi...s_and_Freedoms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Canada

I know how many "die hard" fans of Canada we have here on CF, so I thought I'd post the links for them.

Cheers.
Paul.

[jasbee]

NZ has never had a written constitution. It does have a Bill of Rights but can issue decrees from Parliament without passing any laws.
This has been done many times and could apply to digital searches of electronic equipment of arriving travelers by whichever means.

[jasbee]

NZ does NOT have a written constitution. Regulations are promulgated from time to time by decree - they do NOT require an act of Parliament

[Wotname]

For better information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consti...of_New_Zealand

[Wotname]

And even better still.
https://gg.govt.nz/office-governor-g...n/constitution

And you should remember laws and regulations are different things.

[KJThomas]

Originally Posted by Paul L

BS, you making up stuff again?

The new law actually allows them to go on your cloud services. NZ security services, police and customs are noted for going around privacy laws, anyway. Don't rely on customs, promising to be nice!
Most of our customs officers are decent people, but some are not. Those ones will push the limits as far as they can.

[KJThomas]

The new law actually allows them to go on your cloud services. NZ security services, police and customs are noted for going around privacy laws, anyway. Don't rely on customs, promising to be nice!
Most of our customs officers are decent people, but some are not. Those ones will push the limits as far as they can.

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by KJThomas

The new law actually allows them to go on your cloud services. NZ security services, police and customs are noted for going around privacy laws, anyway. Don't rely on customs, promising to be nice!
Most of our customs officers are decent people, but some are not. Those ones will push the limits as far as they can.

Perhaps it does, but that contradicts what the article says.

[hellosailor]

Cyrus, if Kiwi laws offend you, don't go there.

If the laws in any country offend you, don't go there.

Or, if you prefer, slap your Congressmen around until they declare war, subjugate the other folks, and take it over. That's pretty much how we got Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Phillipines...all war prizes. (Yeah, Cuba used to belong to the US.)

It is "their" country, they can make their own laws.

As to OUR own laws and the behavior of OUR native border patrol and customs agents? That's what happens when you give away the right to vote to everyone. The founding fathers never intended to have everyone voting, they felt that the bulk of the population was UNFIT TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT which is why only about 20% of the population gained the right to vote after we became a nation.

As Stan Laurel said to Oliver Hardy:
"Well, that's another fine mess you've gotten us into!"

[Paul L]

If you don't want to enable any access to Cloud data, remove the SIM card before going through customs. That's assuming you even have a SIM that works in the new country.