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Old 06-07-2011, 13:36   #1
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Cruising Permit Required ?

Does a Canadian citizen who bought and took delivery of a new boat in the US who will be staying in US water for approximately 30 days before taking the boat into across to border into Canada need a cruising permit?
Any help or direction with this will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 06-07-2011, 14:40   #2
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Re: Cruising Permit Required?

Is the boat documented as a Canadian vessel? Also where is the boat?
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Call the local Immigration Office to get documented details
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Old 06-07-2011, 18:13   #4
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Re: Cruising Permit Required?

Probably depends on which State. I have been advised that for Washington State I cannot stay longer than 45 days after purchase if the sale is handled by a WA broker. The boat in question is foreign owned and I am not a US citizen.

But at the time of purchase you can get up to three x two month cruising permits for $25 each, but requiring an overnight stay out of country each renewal. Or you can get a one year cruising permit for $500.
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Re: Cruising Permit Required?

You have to buy permits to cruise through the states if you are canadian? I have a lot to learn!
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State regulations, so depends on the State. And perhaps whether you ask, or get a visit from 'friendly officials'. I haven't checked Noonsite, but suspect they will have a lot of info.
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Does a Canadian citizen who bought and took delivery of a new boat in the US who will be staying in US water for approximately 30 days before taking the boat into across to border into Canada need a cruising permit?
Any help or direction with this will be appreciated. Thank you.
In these circumstances, no permit is required. I assume that the boat is now registered in a US state, and won't become a Canadian boat until it is imported into Canada.

Only US citizens can own a US Federally DOCUMENTED boat, but anyone can own a boat registered in a State.
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Re: Cruising Permit Required?

WJKY... just don't document the boat in the US. Non US citizens are not permitted to do that. I believe that the 45 days to leave Washington State that Armagh was referring to is also to avoid State Sales tax. Coming back into the US, if you have a foreign flag vessel in the US, you used to have to leave the US for two weeks every year and re-apply for your cruising permit. Vessel movements are supposed to be reported to DHS but this is not practiced to the letter by many visitors. Many times a phone call to the port authority or local USCG is all that is needed. Be sure you have all your foreign docs in order in the event you are boarded, including passports for all foreign nationals aboard.
As a delivery and permanent Capt aboard foreign flagged vessels, it was my responsibility to ensure that all the regs were followed to the letter, including reporting and ensuring that each non US passenger had the proper documentation and visas to be in the US. The way it was explained to me on several occasions by the USCG was that if all was not in order, it was my license that was at risk as well as the boat being subject to siezure. Capt Phil
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