Cruising as a Canadian

[Seahunter]

Originally Posted by hummingway

My understanding is all Canadian citizens are entitled to medical care. I know it used to be insurance still paid but you have to pay your premium.

As opposed to American perception; you're correct.

[ADMPRTR]

Originally Posted by Canibul

Did you see the news article about the guy getting tasered three times, hospitalized, and arrested by TSA today? land of the free and home of the brave.

Here in Canada, when we taser visitors, we make sure they don't get up...especially if they are grumpy after being abandoned in the airport.

I didn't know there was a six month limit on out of country coverage. If so, I would expect that upon return it would be reinstated after 3 months... at least I hope so.

[hummingway]

Out of curiosity I looked up the reasons you can be denied a passport in Canada and here's what I came up with. Note that it says they "may refuse", not will.

Passport Canada may refuse to issue a passport to an applicant who

(a) fails to provide the Passport Office with a duly completed application for a passport or with the information and material that is required or requested

(i) in the application for a passport, or

(ii) pursuant to section 8;

(b) stands charged in Canada with the commission of an indictable offence;

(c) stands charged outside Canada with the commission of any offence that would, if committed in Canada, constitute an indictable offence;

(d) is subject to a term of imprisonment in Canada or is forbidden to leave Canada or the territorial jurisdiction of a Canadian court by conditions imposed with respect to

(i) any temporary absence, work release, parole, statutory release or other similar regime of absence or release from a penitentiary or prison or any other place of confinement granted under the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, the Prisons and Reformatories Act or any law made in Canada that contains similar release provisions,

(ii) any alternative measures, judicial interim release, release from custody, conditional sentence order or probation order granted under the Criminal Code or any law made in Canada that contains similar release provisions, or

(iii) any absence without escort from a penitentiary or prison granted under any law made in Canada;

(d.1) is subject to a term of imprisonment outside Canada or is forbidden to leave a foreign state or the territorial jurisdiction of a foreign court by conditions imposed with respect to any custodial release provisions that are comparable to those set out in subparagraphs (d)(i) to (iii);

(e) has been convicted of an offence under section 57 of the Criminal Code or has been convicted in a foreign state of an offence that would, if committed in Canada, constitute an offence under section 57 of the Criminal Code;

(f) is indebted to the Crown for expenses related to repatriation to Canada or for other consular financial assistance provided abroad at his request by the Government of Canada; or

(g) has been issued a passport that has not expired and has not been revoked.

[hummingway]

Section 57 has to do with knowingly lying to the legislative assembly and there was a bill set forth a few years back to repeal it. I don't know what happened with that but I guess they don't want us lying to the folks lying to us.

[red_sky]

Originally Posted by hummingway

Section 57 has to do with knowingly lying to the legislative assembly and there was a bill set forth a few years back to repeal it. I don't know what happened with that but I guess they don't want us lying to the folks lying to us.

LOL!

[fifty360]

Originally Posted by hummingway

Out of curiosity I looked up the reasons you can be denied a passport in Canada and here's what I came up with. Note that it says they "may refuse", not will.

Passport Canada may refuse to issue a passport to an applicant who...

thank-you for clarifying. I have two friends that suffered the discretion of passport Canada's option, one had a domestic assault charge and had to get a pardon before he could get his passport application approved, the other has been charged with a crime but not convicted, and had to surrender his passport ("stands charged with an indictable offence") which was not even part of his bail conditions. Methinks that since 911 everyone is much more diligent at the border and the "may refuse" option is selected more times than not. It is nice to know however that this is not always the case. Thanks again.

[dandrews]

Originally Posted by hummingway

Section 57 has to do with knowingly lying to the legislative assembly and there was a bill set forth a few years back to repeal it. I don't know what happened with that but I guess they don't want us lying to the folks lying to us.

Outstanding!!!!!'

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Canibul

... One person wants to slip in and out for health insurance reasons, another wants to go see Banff without hassles over a decades-old traffic fine.
... They stop you from entering Canada, based upon an ancient misdemeanor conviction that was not committed in Canada in the first place. Its Canadian government policy.

In Canada, the equivalent of a DUI is not a misdemeanor; but the criminal equivalent of a felony conviction.

[Canibul]

Yes, but no crimes have been committed in canada, and the crime was not a felony where it was committed, and the jurdistiction where it was committed has officially considered it paid for and settled.

It's like refusing someone entrance for having slapped his 14 year old bride in Pakistan when he was young. Might have been frowned upon or even mildly illegal in Pakistan, but it in no way is an indication of expected future behavior in another country years later.

Hey, i don't really mean to be argumentative sounding or ruffle feathers. It's an academic issue to me. An unfairness example and the USA has more than it's share of similar stupid laws. I spent a lot of time in canada in my career with no problems. My first serious girlfriend was Canadian. Best man at my first wedding is Canadian, who went on to run the marine program at Rosenthiel in Florida. I've worked with some of your nationally known ocean guys, like both Jim and Jim McFarlane Jr. and Mike MacDonald at ISE in Port Coquitlam. Many, many joint programs with their subs and my tracking systems. Worked with Phil Nyutten. And there are probably still some program managers at MacDonald Dettweiler who will remember the four years we worked together on the Canadian MCDV ( Maritime Coastal Defense Vessel) program. I probably know more about some parts of their navy than most of them do. Worked with the MCM and EOD guys and several survey companies, like McIlhenney and Geomarine out on the East Coast. I've seen Sable Island from every angle. And supplied the Tracking systems for the ROVs that recovered the wreckage of several commercial aircraft lost in Canadian waters. I used to have the top half of a Canadian Coast guard uniform that I won in a poker game...I know the El Tico in St. Johns...and have degenerated into Screech at the witching hour.
So, please, don't think I have any animosity toward Canadians. They are by far the most numerous in nationality visitors to the TCI, by the way, after the Haitians, of course.

[xymotic]

Their country, their rules.

No point in arguing it Don Quixote

[George Hoskins]

When I arrived from the UK to Visit to Canada one of the questions on the form was

Have you come to Canada with the intention of committing a terrorist activity?


then underneath it said......

Answering yes to this question does not mean you cannot enter Canada.


Are they mad?


I think they are

Or you could just get a complete new identity and medical card just by painting your face brown, wearing a diaper on your head, calling yourself Mahhat Mahdiaper, speaking in a foreign accent and claiming to be a boat person who is hated by their own country.

Seems to work for a lot of people

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by George Hoskins

When I arrived from the UK to Visit to Canada one of the questions on the form was

Have you come to Canada with the intention of committing a terrorist activity?

then underneath it said......

Answering yes to this question does not mean you cannot enter Canada.

Are they mad?

I think they are

With the UK it must be some sort of reciprocal arrangement .