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Old 21-09-2011, 08:19   #16
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

interesting article here on seamans book's apparently the flag authority of the ship,can issue to any nationality of seaman onboard.


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AFAIK, the visa waiver program does NOT apply to entry into the USA on a private vessel.
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AFAIK, the visa waiver program does NOT apply to entry into the USA on a private vessel.
Correct.

Also the transit visas that apply to commercial seamen are not available to private individuals and anyway are designed to allow crewmen to leave or return to an airport

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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

The following countries allow visa-free or visa-on-arrival travel for Kenyan citizens :
See ➥ Visa requirements for Kenyan citizens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Countries and Territories Conditions of access

Africa

Botswana 90 days
Cape Verde Visa issued on arrival
Comoros A free 24 h transit visa issued upon arrival at the airport. Within 24 hours this must be converted into a full visa at the immigration office in Moroni
(fee payable)
Djibouti 1 month visa issued on arrival for DJF 5000
Ethiopia 1 year
Eritrea 3 months
Gambia 90 days
Ghana 90 days
Lesotho 14 days
Madagascar 90 day visa issued on arrival for MGA 140,000
Malawi 90 days
Mauritius 60 days (tourism) / 90 days (business)
Mozambique 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$25
Namibia 3 months
Rwanda 3 months
Seychelles 1 month
Swaziland 2 months
Tanzania 3 months
Togo 7 day visa issued on arrival
Uganda 6 months
Zambia 90 days [21]
Zimbabwe 3 months

Americas

Antigua and Barbuda 1 month
Bahamas 6 months
Barbados 28 days
Belize 1 month
Bermuda 6 months
Cayman Islands 30 days
Dominica 21 days
Ecuador 90 days
Grenada 3 months
Haiti 3 months
Jamaica 6 months
Montserrat 3 months
Trinidad and Tobago 90 days
Saint Kitts and Nevis 3 months
Saint Lucia 6 week visa issued on arrival for $50
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1 month
British Virgin Islands 30 days

Asia

Azerbaijan 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$100
Bangladesh 90 day visa issued on arrival for $50
Cambodia 30 day visa issued on arrival for US$ 20
Georgia 3 month visa issued on arrival
Hong Kong 3 months
Laos 30 day visa issued on arrival for US$ 30
Malaysia 2 months
Maldives 30 days
Macau 30 day visa issued on arrival for 100 MOP
Nepal 15/30/90 day visa issued upon arrival for $25/50/100
Philippines 21 days
Singapore 30 days
Syria 15 day visa issued on arrival
Timor-Leste 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$30

Europe

Armenia 120 day visa issued upon arrival for AMD 15,000
Kosovo 90 days

Oceania

Cook Islands 31 days
Fiji 6 months
Kiribati 28 days
Micronesia, Federated States of 30 days
Nauru 30 days
Niue 30 days
Palau 30 days
Samoa 60 days
Tuvalu 1 month
Vanuatu 30 days
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AFAIK, the visa waiver program does NOT apply to entry into the USA on a private vessel.
a fairly definitive answer given here on the b1/b2 visa issue for crew on non us flagged vessels entering the states

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The following countries allow visa-free or visa-on-arrival travel for Kenyan citizens :
See ➥ Visa requirements for Kenyan citizens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Countries and Territories Conditions of access

Africa

Botswana 90 days
Cape Verde Visa issued on arrival
Comoros A free 24 h transit visa issued upon arrival at the airport. Within 24 hours this must be converted into a full visa at the immigration office in Moroni
(fee payable)
Djibouti 1 month visa issued on arrival for DJF 5000
Ethiopia 1 year
Eritrea 3 months
Gambia 90 days
Ghana 90 days
Lesotho 14 days
Madagascar 90 day visa issued on arrival for MGA 140,000
Malawi 90 days
Mauritius 60 days (tourism) / 90 days (business)
Mozambique 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$25
Namibia 3 months
Rwanda 3 months
Seychelles 1 month
Swaziland 2 months
Tanzania 3 months
Togo 7 day visa issued on arrival
Uganda 6 months
Zambia 90 days [21]
Zimbabwe 3 months

Americas

Antigua and Barbuda 1 month
Bahamas 6 months
Barbados 28 days
Belize 1 month
Bermuda 6 months
Cayman Islands 30 days
Dominica 21 days
Ecuador 90 days
Grenada 3 months
Haiti 3 months
Jamaica 6 months
Montserrat 3 months
Trinidad and Tobago 90 days
Saint Kitts and Nevis 3 months
Saint Lucia 6 week visa issued on arrival for $50
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1 month
British Virgin Islands 30 days

Asia

Azerbaijan 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$100
Bangladesh 90 day visa issued on arrival for $50
Cambodia 30 day visa issued on arrival for US$ 20
Georgia 3 month visa issued on arrival
Hong Kong 3 months
Laos 30 day visa issued on arrival for US$ 30
Malaysia 2 months
Maldives 30 days
Macau 30 day visa issued on arrival for 100 MOP
Nepal 15/30/90 day visa issued upon arrival for $25/50/100
Philippines 21 days
Singapore 30 days
Syria 15 day visa issued on arrival
Timor-Leste 30-day visa issued upon arrival for US$30

Europe

Armenia 120 day visa issued upon arrival for AMD 15,000
Kosovo 90 days

Oceania

Cook Islands 31 days
Fiji 6 months
Kiribati 28 days
Micronesia, Federated States of 30 days
Nauru 30 days
Niue 30 days
Palau 30 days
Samoa 60 days
Tuvalu 1 month
Vanuatu 30 days
good info gord ,have found this to be the case as well for british passport holders in commonwealth countries,having visited 39 of the above countries,it saves a fortune in visa fees!!!!!!!
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Old 21-09-2011, 09:28   #22
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Yes, we found this pager very interesting and it made us feel much better. Still trying to get her a decent passport though...
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Old 21-09-2011, 10:24   #23
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

I have a friend who sold his boat because he had gotten tired of trying to get his Thai boyfriend/crew into first-world countries. Seaman's papers might be the answer--but in a few places she might be restricted to the port area.
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

If she needs a visa because of the passport then she needs the visa full stop.

Go to Germany, get the German passport for you wife then go cruising. Or else avoid countries where someone does not like her passport.

Remember that some countries (not all) offer sailors a visa on entry - just make a list of the places you want to visit and check what regulations there are.

PS Noonsite used to give good info on that.

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If she needs a visa because of the passport then she needs the visa full stop.
and some of the awkward countries insist on Visa applications being made from the applicant's home country....something (else ) to check.

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Go to Germany, get the German passport for you wife then go cruising. Or else avoid countries where someone does not like her passport.
As OP said already, that'll take 5 years and marrying her

FWIW the UK only takes 2 years (plus a few months of fannying around).
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

Here is another link to the subject of a Seaman's Book. Lesson Learned: Seaman
- - But the overriding question is does a small private recreational vessel/sailboat qualify as a commercial yacht upon which professional seamen are employed? And to have a professional seaman on board does the Captain of the vessel have to be licensed and STC'd?
- - Kind of tricky. . .
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

if you go to delta.com and search the site for the word 'visa' you will get visa requirements to visit any country by any nationality. I figure its updated often since its used by the airline itself to decide who boards a plane.
secondly, sometimes if you bring along a big bottle of nice whisky it facilitates getting entry by boat no matter what nationality the passenger has. Never tried this in a French island or any developed country like the USA or Europe.
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if you go to delta.com and search the site for the word 'visa' you will get visa requirements to visit any country by any nationality. I figure its updated often since its used by the airline itself to decide who boards a plane.
secondly, sometimes if you bring along a big bottle of nice whisky it facilitates getting entry by boat no matter what nationality the passenger has. Never tried this in a French island or any developed country like the USA or Europe.
As stated earlier, laws can be different when entering a country by private vessel vs. commercial carrier. In the US, the visa waiver program DOES NOT apply to entering the country via private boat, i.e., a foreign national MUST have a US visa to enter by private vessel (with a couple of exceptions/programs - Canadians, etc.).
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Re: Complicated Nationality Questions

I have the same issue - I'm English my GF Filipino ..... based in Oman.

Solutions:
Get married - HELL WILL FREEZE OVER FIRST....
Return Home and wait .... (see above)
Stay in Asia .... Sounds a winner to me

For other places: We will just have to get a Visa. Europe/UK is not too bad, just the US being a little pedantic. Last time she applied - she needed to show her apartment rental agreement - I mean..... WTF

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Get married, in Germany, (or your home country) then she's OK on your passport!
Just do the proposal like you mean it, not as an excuse to avoid paperwork!!!!!!!!
Marrying someone does not bestow citizenship upon them or make them OK on your passport. In the U.S. you can be married to someone for a hundred years and their nationality will not change unless they apply, qualify and pass a test to gain citizenship.
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