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Old 06-12-2011, 09:32   #1
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Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

My question is the result of comments on a recent thread regarding the exchange rates of foreign currency's (when buying a boat) and in fact, the value of “currencies" (paper) at all.

Some have suggested that trading currency for a boat with the ability to relocate the boat to economies where its value is greatest, is one way of getting the most value of the original currency.

So it got me wondering....if your global roaming boat is kept off shore, beyond the 12 or 24 mile limit of these varying countries, and you come to shore in your tender to clear in (I'll assume that the tender is a legally documented vessel) would that tender be the only vessel mentioned in the documents? If, for instance, its an open rib type vessel or a jet ski...I wonder how the authorities would handle this.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

ohh, I'd just arrest you, and be done with it. Save the planet from future hassle.

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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

I bet some authorities would get very suspicious if you left the ship in the international waters and landed in the aux. This much said they would probably check you (and the aux) in & out, and claim whatever the fees are.

But, why would you do it?

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Old 06-12-2011, 10:25   #4
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

I'm thinking its a big mother ship full of all sorts that may or may not be easily allowed in the country you are visiting.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

I certainly won't be doing any 24 mile trips in [I]my[I] tender.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

Arguing with government officials always works out in my favor. No problemo...
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

I'm not thinking to piss anyone off...or be deceitful in any way...this is all well with in the law as far as I know...
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I'm not thinking to piss anyone off...or be deceitful in any way...this is all well with in the law as far as I know...
I know its a serious question and fwiw, I agree. If you properly document the vessel you arrive in LOA shouldn't matter even if it was deployed from a second boat in international waters. The second boat is a red herring.

However whenever I clear into Malaysia or Indonesia I must present my port clearance from Singapore. Presuming I took the boat and the dinghy, I would need two port clearances. Hmmmm...

Having crew arrive on a different boat, we have done - transfers at sea. Clearing out one boat and clearing in a different boat, not so easy. Maybe one sailor clear out in the boat and one sailor clear out in the dink.

My question is how this relates to the first part of your question about exchange rates?
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My question is how this relates to the first part of your question about exchange rates?
The first part was just to explain how I came to the question.
I figured some would connect the dots and see the off shore "bank" as an interesting thought....relative the the thread I mentioned.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

Customs official: "You came down from Yemen in a 10' Zodiac?"

James S: "Uh... No, I just thought it might be easier to leave my CT48 offshore in international waters."

Customs official: "Is this because of the guns or drugs you carry aboard?"

James S: "Acually, no. It's because I'm a Cruisers' Forum Moderator.

Customs official: "Ah. This makes perfect sense."
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Customs official: "You came down from Yemen in a 10' Zodiac?"

James S: "Uh... No, I just thought it might be easier to leave my CT48 offshore in international waters."

Customs official: "Is this because of the guns or drugs you carry aboard?"

James S: "Acually, no. It's because I'm a Cruisers' Forum Moderator.

Customs official: "Ah. This makes perfect sense."
"No it's because it's my offshore bank and and all my gold and money is in it."

"Wait here. Oh, and in our country you are required to declare the heading of the last 24 miles of your trip."
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

Yeh....something like that.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

james s--is not the process you described exactly that which is in practice by many megas at present?? should be an ok thing to do ....
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james s--is not the process you described exactly that which is in practice by many megas at present?? should be an ok thing to do ....
I don't know if they stay in international waters, but it sure seems viable.
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Re: Clearing in from Tender While 'Mother Ship' Is Outside the Twelve-Mile Limit

Hey there are drug smugglers who do exactly that all the time. No problem, at least most of the time. Few countries have the satellite tracking capability the US has. I did read about some Aus customs officials busting a sailboat full of drugs recently. But maybe they would have gotten away with it if they just hove to offshore and came in on their tender.
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