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Old 24-09-2013, 11:07   #1
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is it ok to have a cannon on your boat ? just asking - i was thinking about selling them to mariners
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Old 24-09-2013, 11:09   #2
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In what country are you asking?


I've used them in the US for starting races.
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like a real one ? to ward off pirates ?
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Re: cannons

Besides the cannon itself, sailors will need cannon balls and black powder...Not acceptable to have, on a civilian boat...boat will be confiscated.

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You're joking right? I do not know if any pirates in the US. And a cannon is just a shotgun that is hard to aim.
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Besides the cannon itself, sailors will need cannon balls and black powder...Not acceptable to have, on a civilian boat...boat will be confiscated.

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I don't know about the black powder thing. I imagine there are better behaving propellants available.

Reenacters use bread as wadding, as it basically disintegrates when fired. Unless you leave it overnight an allow it to get stale and hard. Then you will have a potentially dangerous stale loaf bouncing across the water.

I wonder if there are any small breach loaders on the market, maybe a parrot gun. I would want something with a rapid reload time.

A recoiless rifle would be pretty sweet also..



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What are the specs/price and do you have any pictures?
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Re: cannons

There are lots of saluting cannons available that usually use 10 ga blanks. It used to be customary to fire a saluting cannon at naval vessels, but I suppose these days you might get answered with a hail of 50 cal., a couple of 5 inchers and perhaps a Harpoon misslie, so it's probably a better Idea just to dip your flag.
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Old 24-09-2013, 11:59   #8
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is it ok to have a cannon on your boat ? just asking - i was thinking about selling them to mariners
I'm partial to Bofors and Oerlikon 20-40mm's, but a Phalanx CIWS would be the cat's meow .

Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bofors 40 mm gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oerlikon 20 mm cannon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[BTW, I picked up a matched pair of nice Tektronix oscilloscopes from Oerlikon's Quebec missile R&D site a few years ago (I collect o'scopes, terrible habit)]
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Even the small ones have shotgun, rifle and pistols to back up the machine gun.

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I'm partial to Bofors and Oerlikon 20-40mm's, but a Phalanx CIWS would be the cat's meow .

Phalanx CIWS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bofors 40 mm gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oerlikon 20 mm cannon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I got to fire the 20 mm M61 Vulcan gatling gun (which is the basis for the Phalanx), and the dual 40 mm track-mounted M42 Duster (US Army version of the Bofors) while in officers' basic school in El Paso. Awesome firepower!

A little heavy for a 38' sailboat though!
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Need to consider it....might help with that "give way" problem.. Hmm
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Sure it's okay. Something like those used to signal a sailboat race start would probably not get you into trouble. Probably.

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Now that's a horse of another colour! Would this perchance fit upon your deck?
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Re: cannons

In La Cruz de Huanacaxtle last winter there was a dock party and a guy on Destiny (schooner) had a little mini cannon. The thing was friggin LOUD. We fired off a potato gun as well. That was the night before the Puddle Jump fleet left. Really cool party.



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I got to fire the 20 mm M61 Vulcan gatling gun (which is the basis for the Phalanx), and the dual 40 mm track-mounted M42 Duster (US Army version of the Bofors) while in officers' basic school in El Paso. Awesome firepower!

A little heavy for a 38' sailboat though!
Heh, just a little ballistic hyperbole.

I've heard some sea stories from my Coastie kids though, while putting in their sea duty time.
Cruisers need to be prepared for the eventuality should it ever come to this: Offshore SAR, and drug runner, intercepts sometimes result in the necessity to abandon a boat/vessel at sea.
They can't very well leave it as a floating hazard to navigation, so the crew will turn the evolution into a little deepsix 'live fire' exercise, much enjoyed by all but the owners.
The largest USCG WHEC Hamilton's (and others) are equipped with various weapons, like an Italian (IIRC) 76mm cannon, 25mm M242's, and that Phalanx; and those puppies can chew up a yott in a heartbeat. Smaller classes may have only .50cal BMG's so it may take a bit longer .
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When I was in the Navy some of the specops boats carried the gau 17 minigun. I would hate to be on the receiving end of those bastards. They can offload 2k-4k rounds per minute. Nothing "mini" about that.
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