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Old 10-09-2013, 09:30   #31
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

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Australia do not require a license for VHF anymore.

The vessel does not need a call sign under Australian law.

A MMSI is easy peasy to get and have processed by AMSA.

I'd give them probably a week to process they are the most efficient department.

We bought our EPIRB and registered the AIS to it and asked they note we are in the MED.

NO problemo at all.
Is your AIS the transmitting type? If so, I will try and do the same... but somehow I cant believe it is that simple after all the hassle I have had with AMSA
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I'd give them probably a week to process they are the most efficient department.


Gotta agree with the positive remarks re AMSA. I haven't got over the final line with them yet but they've been great to deal with so far.
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

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Australia do not require a license for VHF anymore............


NO problemo at all.
I am sure you know what you mean but for others, let's tease this out to give the full detail.

Australia does not require a station license for VHF.
However someone on board must hold an operators certificate in order to use the said VHF. Many simply call this a license

There are a variety of certificates that satisfy the law.

From AMSA website
• Restricted Radio Operator’s Certificate of Proficiency (RROCP)
Marine Radio Operator’s Certificate of Proficiency (MROCP)
Marine Radio Operator’s VHF Certificate of Proficiency (MROVCP)
Plus others

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http://www.amsa.gov.au/forms-and-pub...ons/AMSA89.pdf
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What if you own a boat and will hire a crew who will have the operator licence?
No problem, as Dave has already suggested (several times ), just use that crew to get the MMSI and once got, you got it forever
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

There is no longer a requirement to "licence" the radio installation.

Individuals do not need a licence to operate a VHF. (simply get someone to nominate your installation for your MMSI)

Call signs are no longer issued for installations you simply make your own up and link that to your MMSI, ours is VNF44O which means Viv and Frank 440 (we are on a 440)

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I'd give them probably a week to process they are the most efficient department.


Gotta agree with the positive remarks re AMSA. I haven't got over the final line with them yet but they've been great to deal with so far.
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

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There is no longer a requirement to "licence" the radio installation.

Individuals do not need a licence to operate a VHF. (simply get someone to nominate your installation for your MMSI)

Call signs are no longer issued for installations you simply make your own up and link that to your MMSI, ours is VNF44O which means Viv and Frank 440 (we are on a 440)

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Let's tease some more, ACMA's position on removing the need for operator licensing is only a proposal at this stage.

This proposal is expected to get up but will only apply to operations by Australians in Australian waters. Internationally we will still need a operator licence! This will put us in line with the USA system but IMHO, it is a step backward. No doublt others might see it as a step forward
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LMAO, the fact remains you can simply proceed as you wish, in our case both my wife and i hold and have held ROCOP's for 35 years never have we been asked to produce them and having sailed from FUNTANA (a stones throw from Venice) to Rhodes whenever i've proffered our licence they wave it away ie not interested!

In those 35 years of holding the licences we have never been asked in Australia to show them.

HF is a different kettle of fish.

VHF expertise need only be taught and examined when getting or going for a recreational or commercial ticket.

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LMAO, the fact remains you can simply proceed as you wish, in our case both my wife and i hold and have held ROCOP's for 35 years never have we been asked to produce them and having sailed from FUNTANA (a stones throw from Venice) to Rhodes whenever i've proffered our licence they wave it away ie not interested!

In those 35 years of holding the licences we have never been asked in Australia to show them.

HF is a different kettle of fish.

VHF expertise need only be taught and examined when getting or going for a recreational or commercial ticket.

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The ONLY time I have needed to flash my RROCP was for a HF station licence and a MMSI.
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

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There is no longer a requirement to "licence" the radio installation.

Individuals do not need a licence to operate a VHF. (simply get someone to nominate your installation for your MMSI)

Call signs are no longer issued for installations you simply make your own up and link that to your MMSI, ours is VNF44O which means Viv and Frank 440 (we are on a 440)

The following is of interest:-
VHF marine radio qualifications | ACMA

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OK.... I have sent in AMSA Form 89 nominating someone else as my radio operator... will let you know how I go at getting an MMSI....
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VHF expertise need only be taught and examined when getting or going for a recreational or commercial ticket.
Sadly this is untrue. So few people understand radio procedure especially DSC distress operation relaying etc. them there is the knowledge of the workings of the GMDSS

A license mightn't be necessary , training is

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It took a little while but I know have an MMSI number and the AIS transceiver is sorted....
Thanks folks for the info!
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Re: Aussie boat with AIS from the US

From someone who has an MROCP, and an MMSI programmed into their radio, I would suggest the following:

Find someone who has an MROCP and use their ID to obtain the MMSI from AMSA. The number is registered to the YACHT, so it won't matter who acquires it.

You should, of course, get an MROCP and Ship's Station licence once you enter Australian waters. Once the number is programmed it can't be changed on most equipment, so get it right the first time.
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