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Old 06-06-2011, 11:30   #16
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Re: At What Point Must One Clear Customs ?

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"Effectively abolished" was used to mean showing up without prior notification and approval is illegal due to "national security" considerations. There are of course, some officials who are reasonable when a small "non-threatening" yacht enters without prior permission. That usually means the yacht and crew do not have a pre-approved Visa.
- - In past experience such yachts have been told to leave forthwith and go someplace else. Failure to be able to do such due to any circumstances opens up a potential nightmare of bureaucratic BS varying from confiscation to fines to a reasonable official working something out for the crippled cruiser.
- - For larger vessels the situation can get downright dangerous as everybody is totally paranoid of the threat of terrorism, real or imagined.
- - Reciprocity is the key phrase in international handling of visiting foreigners and if one or more countries are downright obnoxious about allowing another countries citizens access then the offended country slaps the same or similar restrictions in retaliation.
- - So you end up with a myriad amount of different rules and restrictions as you cruise from one country to another. And it even varies from one port of entry to another within the same country. Keeping up which country is doing what is the only way to minimize unpleasant experiences.
Just to highlight some astute comments above, the various requirements at various ports of entry in SE Asia can be, let's just say "incongruous".

In the Philippines there is very little consisitency and vast legal discrepancies when entering a "normal" port of entry and "Subic", which, theoretically is a "freeport" much more used to foreign yachts and generally more accomodating.

Local politics and level of corruption play a big role in the PI, as well as in Indonesia, according to some reports posted on this website.

Thanks to all for your input,

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Old 06-06-2011, 11:40   #17
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Re: At What Point Must One Clear Customs ?

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Mark-
"So he dropped the pick 100 meters away and didn't go in till morning.
Needless to say the US chappies wern't happy chappies, "

Well, presumably either he woke the guys up, or they "had" to be ready to meet him at 2AM so either way their night was shot. And then your friend keeps them waiting six or seven hours? You just know they have to ask, what's he doing for six hours on that boat, that he couldn't have just tied up at the dock?

Rash guess, they brought a dog to sniff out the roach. See, that's why you have to keep all flammable materials stowed in a sealed locker above deck. :-)
Guess your comment only goes to show that "honesty is the best policy", but perhaps it's most appropriate when dealing with honest officials in "civilized" nations.

No doubt, US Customs officials are well versed in the discipline of skepticism, if not "cynicism" these days, as perhaps, all of us should be when contemplating a visit to any foreign port.

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