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Old 11-11-2010, 22:22   #46
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I use coloured flashing lights regularly - I don't think they can be mistaken for other lights specified in Colregs (rule 20 b) and so I don't see any problem using them.

Another alternative would be to use a decklight or spreader light to illuminate the deck. Which is encouraged by Colregs (rule 30 c ). LEDs would be ideal
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(c) A vessel at anchor may, and a vessel of 100 meters and more in length shall, also use the available working or equivalent lights to illuminate her decks.
Sounds like I "may" use almost any light I like to make my vessel visible
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How about LED net lights all around the boat, attached just like lifeline netting:

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Sounds like I "may" use almost any light I like to make my vessel visible
That's the way I read it - as long as they don't look like any other light configurations defined in Colregs (which would contravene rule 20)
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Love the salt shaker light!!!!!
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How about LED net lights all around the boat, attached just like lifeline netting:
That would look sensational!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That would look sensational!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or those icicle lite sets
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What a GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or those icicle lite sets
Or better still something like this



And when the mothership comes down through the clouds all the gunlovers can blast it with their 50 cal's
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Boy Oh Boy

I bet you would NEVER lose your boat with all that on it. And every one else would have to be blind to not see it!
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here is a snip from USCG Rule of Road FAQs
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14. Can I use Strobe Lights to be more visible at night? For any other lights beyond those specifically defined within the Navigation Rules they should be such lights as cannot be mistaken for the lights specified in these Rules, or do not impair their visibility or distinctive character, or interfere with the keeping of a proper look-out (Rule 20).

Displaying a strobe for "higher visibility" would confuse other vessels as to your navigational status (many aids to navigation use a strobe or flashing). Also, lights provide direction and aspect information to other boat operators. For example, if while operating my vessel I see a red light on my starboard side I know I am the give-way vessel (Rule 16, 17). The use of a strobe light could overwhelm a vessel's navigation lights and cease to provide such crucial direction and aspect information to other boat operators.

Also, Rule 36 of the International Rules addresses signals to attract attention and for the purpose of [that] rule the use of high intensity intermittent or revolving lights, such as strobe lights, shall be avoided. Rule 37 of the Inland Rules addresses strobes in regards to distress signals so that when a vessel is in distress and requires assistance she shall use...a high intensity white light flashing at regular intervals from 50 to 70 times per minute.

Since strobe light use is to be avoided (International waters) or used as a distress signal (Inland waters), it cannot be used to routinely mark vessels operating on the water.
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ODE TO COLREGS

Blinking white, cardinal light,
What can one safely do,
Masthead white, or star at night,
Confusion here, rampant, too

Cruise ship lit up, bright as day,
Every color under the sun,
Subs orange, cops blue
Limiting my fun

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Since strobe light use is to be avoided (International waters) or used as a distress signal (Inland waters), it cannot be used to routinely mark vessels operating on the water.


Ahhh.... but if your 'On da Hook'..... your not operating...
Apart from cork/ring pull removals....
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Since strobe light use is to be avoided (International waters) or used as a distress signal (Inland waters), it cannot be used to routinely mark vessels operating on the water.


Ahhh.... but if your 'On da Hook'..... your not operating...
Apart from cork/ring pull removals....
It doesn't say "operating", it says "Displaying a strobe for "higher visibility" would confuse other vessels as to your navigational status"...

being anchored is a navigational status.
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red anchor lights required on larger vessels due to aviation rules. (...) required by law.
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Hi Judy,
I have just joined a mega yacht that is not equipped with such red light (old boat) so I was wondering what the rule was about it (boat length, mast height). But I cannot find this regulation on the net. Do you know where I could find it?
I am myself against lights that are not going along with the rules as I often find them very annoying (especially the flashing light -strobes or the more and more common flashing LED- disturbing eye sight at night) but if regulation obliges, I will have to equip the boat with it.
Thank you for your help.

For English Harbour, Antigua: the alignment lights do not always work... The channel however, where the danger lies, is now very well marked and lightened. When one approaches slowly to the first red mark, the wind decreases and one enters the bay in calm winds and seas... towards the 1st red light, keeping it close to Starboard. Then the other green give enough room to turn and continue the route in.
I don't think large yachts should enter at night anyway unless they know the area very well.

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Re: Are Blinking Anchor Lights Legal ?

Does any one else remember when you hoisted a kerosene lantern on the main halyard with a light messenger line to the end of the boom to keep it from swinging against the mast? Sailed with that rig and anchored in harbors from Alaska to southern Mexico and never got run down at night. Oh, the days of simplicity... only one battery for starting and a hand crank when it didn't work... candles and kero lights below and felt we were livin' the life... Capt Phil
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Re: Are Blinking Anchor Lights Legal ?

I am positive that the strobe anchor lights are NOT legal as they can be mistaken for navigation lights such as buoys, as mentioned above.
Otherwise, THEY ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID! There are 3 of these idiots right now in the anchorage in Admiralty Bay, Bequia, as a matter of fact.
Try entering an anchorage at night, possibly in inclement weather, and you are trying to locate that vessel, but just as you almost get a bearing; it's off, then on, then off & oh yes, the boat's swinging on her anchor, so the stupid light comes on in a different place from where it went off. You're moving; it's moving....
Got the idea?
I hate people who think they are so smart & can do just as they please, no matter that some pretty smart people have taken several centuries to work out a set of regulations which work pretty well for all. Go by the book & you can't lose.
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