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Old 18-10-2009, 22:04   #16
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We bought some 1" closed cell foam from Defender (much lighter than the stuff used in bottom siders or c-cushions), cut to shape with an electric carving knife, and covered with Sunbrella. Cheap, easy, comfortable, durable, and professional looking.
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Old 18-10-2009, 22:47   #17
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Our saddle style C-Cushions are more than 14 years old and still going strong. Our cushions survived an eleven year circumnavigation, and we used them every day sitting at the helm when the boat was underway. I don't need to replace them because they are still good. The are one of our best investments in terms of durable equipment for cruising.
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Old 27-03-2010, 06:12   #18
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I wanted to bring this thread back to see if anyone has a new perspective. I'm about to replace the cockpit cushions (currently 2" ensolite in sunbrella).

My problems with the current cushions is that the foam is too hard and I'm sick of putting them away. I know many like c-cushions but it's just not for me.

So I'm thinking of switching from Sunbrella to Pfifertex (actually a twin called Textiline). The alternative would be to stick with nicer feeling Sunbrella but just leave it out. Maybe I should have done that all along with the current cushions.

For foam I'm thinking of going from 2" Ensolite to 2" Dri-fast reticulated foam.

I'm told another option would be 1" ensolite and 1" dri-fast. but there seems to be some confusion as to whether the ensolite should be on the top or the bottom of the sandwich.

Does anyone know of another type of closed cell foam that is worth considering?

Any advice would be most welcome.

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Old 27-03-2010, 06:35   #19
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The "dry-fast" foam" rots in the sun. I'ved had C-cushion but they did not hold up. I now have closed cell foam covered with Sunbrella but the Sunbrella is staining so I,m going to recover with Tectraline this Summer.
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Old 27-03-2010, 07:29   #20
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Closed cell, no covers, from Deckmate, here. About 1'' thick. Great stuff.

The only mods I would recommend:

- in very wet climes do get slick covers (vinyl etc) so that you can simply wipe off the rain,

- in windy climes find a way to keep the cushions from flying around the cockpit.

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Hi Carl,

The dry fast foam is great, don't let others discourage you too much on it. Yes, UV will damage it in the end, like it will everything. But when you cover it with something that blocks or at least partially blocks UV it is protected.

We use Textilene for covers. You need the type that provides the most shading (other types are more open). Pfifertex has comparable types and there you would also choose the one that provides the most "shading". We prefer Textilene.

We also added batting. This means that the cushions are wet a bit longer but you get 100% UV protection for the foam. We used the standard batting from Sailrite and used spray glue to glue it onto the foam.

When you sandwich the closed cell foam goes under the dry-fast. You need to punch 1" holes in it for drainage.

We use 4" dry-fast without laminating closed cell and this results in cushions you can use as a mattress. The result is firm for the first couple of nights but good after that.

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Nick,

The batting is an interesting idea. So your experience is that it dries pretty quickly (obviously longer than the foam) and doesn't mildew? About how much batting did you install?

I've got to keep the cushions at about 2" or the seat is too high for my oddly short legs. I'm told there is a firmer and softer version of dry-fast and that a 2" cushion would use the firmer. I assume your thicker cushions use the "softer".

I don't love the ensolite sandwich since even with drainage holes it seems like it would trap water. I wonder if I could make a dri-fast sandwich of an inch of softer and an inch of firmer?

I want the cushions in a fairly light color so they aren't hot. The sunbrella has gotten stained over the years. Am I right to assume that the Textiline would be much more stain resistant?

Thanks

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I just use one layer of batting on top & front. It is mostly for aesthetic reasons (so you don't see the (color of the) foam through the Textilene. It's also for the rounded corners on our bull-nose cushions.

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Teak cockpit. We have a couple sunbrella cushions that we use in the cabin and in the cockpit in good weather. Otherwise we have a few type IV throwable cushions up there. Nothing fix-mounted. Cushions always get underfoot and screw things up.
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When a hotel here closed, we bought a job lot of sunloungers. A hundred of them, in fact. The sunloungers start cracking after time in the sun - but the cushions live on, and they make perfect cockipt cushions. They're the right size for our yacht and our two dive boats - they're comfortable, the covers slip off easily to wash, they're fairly thin but that's OK with two layered, and they dry quickly in the sun!
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I love my c cushions. they dont care if it rains (unlike the old ones which had to be unzipped and dried out so they wouldnt become mildew farms) and they are also flotation devices.
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I love my c cushions ...

Did you compare the C Cushions - Custom cockpit cushions for boats to the original About BottomSiders cushions prior to purchasing?
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No. I didnt know bottomsiders existed before I got them but they look identical, at least on the website you link to.
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Consider using sunbrella shade if going with the drain dry. Very comfortable and the water won't puddle around your butt. With the dacron wrap Nick mentioned should be a long term investment, especially since sunbrella upped their warranty to 8 yrs. Are the people out there using sunbrella using the sunbrella cover 9.5 oz or the outdoor upholstery 6.5oz. Its crazy they charge more for the lighter fabric, unless your set on using a print.
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Does anyone have any idea what the original o'day fabric pattern is called?
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