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23-04-2016, 03:30
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
HAHA...
I'm glad this thread brought out the fringe monkeys... (no offence SM )... I've got a ton of old tools, gramps was a machinist among other things... Plus I had my own love affair with the British marquis
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
Whitworth?
An antique, I don't think many even know what it is, I wouldn't if it hadn't been for one or two Brit bikes I've worked on.
How about this? It's a gland nut wrench for an XP-59A. Two thing about it I have never seen before. First it is a manufactured tool, for an Experimental aircraft, and secondly I can't figure out what kind of metal its made from, it's steel like in weight etc., rusts, but is completely non magnetic?
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I've got a few tools with this material... Some old, some newer and German... It seems to be Nickel to me?
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Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
I worked on a north sea drilling rig with whitworth everywhere.......only rig i've ever been on where tool theft was not a problem.
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HAHA! True dat!
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
XP-59A was the very first US jet, first flown in 1942, the X of course meant pre-production, Experimental
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-59_Airacomet
Tool was my Wife's Grandfather's it is used to disassemble the OLEO struts lockrings, He was EF Ball scratched on the tool, he was long gone before we met unfortunately as I would have loved to have talked with him. I have his aircraft mechanics training books from the 20's I believe where a Curtis JN-4 Jenny was the example airplane, and the possibility of a helicopter was discussed.
He was too old I think to serve in WWII, but worked as a civilian apparently on the XP-59 and in developing in air refueling later on.
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That is so flippin' flappin cool ...
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
Umm, draining it all out doesn't count
It was the AMF Harley's that to me were the worst.
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I was thinking the same thing! And... I don't think there's ANYTHING AMF touched that didn't completely suck after they got their fingers on it...
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
Impressive. For how many minutes?
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Right!?!
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23-04-2016, 03:59
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by wsmurdoch
Whitworth, imperial, SAE, metric... All you really need is an any-mm-wrench. You know, a shifting spanner or Crescent wrench or adjustable wrench or whatever else you want to call it.
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Christmas Wrench. What you always want under the tree.
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23-04-2016, 06:52
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by Paul54
I had a few mid 60's Triumph motorcycles. I remember the whitworth type nuts and bolts. Between metric and lots of odd SAE wrenches and sockets I could get most things fixed. I even got one to not leak oil!
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They've definitely changed over the years but still attract attention. Here's my '04 that I picked up couple of months ago, and no oil leaks.
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23-04-2016, 07:52
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
XP-59A was the very first US jet, first flown in 1942, the X of course meant pre-production, Experimental
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-59_Airacomet
Tool was my Wife's Grandfather's it is used to disassemble the OLEO struts lockrings, He was EF Ball scratched on the tool, he was long gone before we met unfortunately as I would have loved to have talked with him. I have his aircraft mechanics training books from the 20's I believe where a Curtis JN-4 Jenny was the example airplane, and the possibility of a helicopter was discussed.
He was too old I think to serve in WWII, but worked as a civilian apparently on the XP-59 and in developing in air refueling later on.
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That's a very cool story. This weekend marks one century since my very late grandfather (he died in 1968) was a 12 year old message runner in the Easter Uprising of 1916 in Dublin. Reading his scrapbooks from that time is like being in a time machine.
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23-04-2016, 08:46
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
If I understand the original post, it is about a mis understanding of how Whitworth and BSF ( British Standard Fine ) tools were labelled.
In the days when we had the empire, and even when we wanted to believe that we still had it, BSF and Whitworth threads held the world together. Whitworth was the agricultural ie coarse thread, and the tools were sized by the thread outside diameter, not the spanner across the flats dimension used by American and metric threads.
By a curious bit of logic, one spanner would fit both a whitworth nut and the next size larger BSF nut, so most spanners would be marked thus -
'7/16" Whit & 1/2" BSF'.
All of which was the least of one's problems if you had a post war British Bike.
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23-04-2016, 09:38
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
Ahh Memories. I just went out to my tool box and looked at my full set of Wentworth wrenches that I had for my Triumphs!
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23-04-2016, 09:40
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
Why didn't England invent computers?
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23-04-2016, 09:54
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by iyamwhatiyam
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They did. Read about Alan Turing...
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23-04-2016, 09:56
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
Quote: "Why didn't England invent computers?"
Rather thot she did! Mechanical too, rather than electronic. Clever, these Poms :-)!
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23-04-2016, 10:32
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor
HAHA!
I needed a 3/4 open end the other day, and stuck my paw in a pile I don't use often...
Came up with this... To my credit... 7/16's Whitworth ain't too far off 3/4" at 0.820"
Actual 7/16" - 1/4-28 nut tossed in there for comparison...
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I thought I was the only one with Whitworth wrenches. SAE, metric an Whitworth keeps you guessing.
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23-04-2016, 11:13
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
I have a BSW ( British Standard Whitworth) open end spanner with a 30 degree offset opening which is perfect to access and bleed the # 1 injector on my W46. Tricky little bugger to get at, filter in the way. It stays wire-tied to the common fuel return line.
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23-04-2016, 14:37
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
Ah yes, whitforth threads. I just discovered them on Vigah. I had to make an adapter for my Tank Tender and after some research found the thread for the dip tubes were 1/2-12. Fortunately, you can still find taps and dyes for them here in the US. I guess it comes with the territory of owning an old boat.
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23-04-2016, 14:50
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
I worked on a north sea drilling rig with whitworth everywhere.......only rig i've ever been on where tool theft was not a problem.
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I worked as a Millwright and many companies used 5/8 drive sockets, never stolen either.
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23-04-2016, 14:52
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by amytom
They've definitely changed over the years but still attract attention. Here's my '04 that I picked up couple of months ago, and no oil leaks.
Attachment 123029
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I had a Triumph Tiger, I knew it was out of oil when it quit leaking.
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23-04-2016, 15:30
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Re: Whoooops! Grabbed the wrong wrench...
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Originally Posted by Kayoko Monk 33
I had a Triumph Tiger, I knew it was out of oil when it quit leaking.
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Sounds like my old BSA.
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