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Old 07-12-2012, 13:26   #1
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Where to get composite materials for Ontario resident

Hi:

I am looking for a source of composite materials available in Ontario. So far I have found on line Plastic World in Toronto area, and Marine Outfitters in Kingston (formerly Pride Marine). Both seem deficient in what they stock.

I live very remotely, so in order of best to worse, I am looking for GTA store front because I expect to drive through over the holiday season, mail order, Belleville, Kingston, Ottawa storefront.

US Composites seem to have the best selection and prices, but I saw no sign of them doing business with Canada in their shipping info, and I wonder of the shipping/border logistics of chemicals.

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Re: Where to get composite materials for Ontario resident

Composites are restricted for most exports outside the US. New generation of civilian and military aircrafts are built of composites, hence the restrictions.
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Old 07-12-2012, 14:50   #3
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Composites are restricted for most exports outside the US. New generation of civilian and military aircrafts are built of composites, hence the restrictions.
Hi:

Sorry, maybe composites isn't the right term. I was referring to epoxy. polyester, fiberglass mat and cloth, and related supplies, not the high tech stuff.

Anyhow, I think I found what I am looking for, Noah's Marine in Toronto.

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Re: Where to get composite materials for Ontario resident

Noahs Marine Boat Building Supplies & Composite Materials : Noahsmarine.com

http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/

http://fibreglass.com/
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Re: Where to get composite materials for Ontario resident

Wicks Aircraft Supply. No problem with export - above info was rubbish, I've received shipments in Australia.
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Re: Where to get composite materials for Ontario resident

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Hi:

Sorry, maybe composites isn't the right term. I was referring to epoxy. polyester, fiberglass mat and cloth, and related supplies, not the high tech stuff.

Anyhow, I think I found what I am looking for, Noah's Marine in Toronto.

Cheers,

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In Toronto: Queensway Fibreglass (formerly Smithcraft, but once again run by the Smiths in some complex backstory) has carbon fibre and all manner of glass and epoxies. I was there on Thursday.

Johnson Plastics (Johnston Industrial Plastics) has a vast selection of acrylics and HDPE in all formats. Having said that, I have cut portlights from Plastic World's considerable range of lexan, acrylic, etc. and they are a very good resource with lots of stock.

JJ Downs has a vast array of fittings, valves, and rigid plastic pipe, as well as hoses and sheet plastics:

J.J. Downs Industrial Plastics Inc.

Need angle steel or aluminum? Metal Supermarkets. (METAL SUPERMARKETS - Buy Metal Online - Small Quantity Orders for Aluminum, Stainless Steel, Hot Rolled Steel, Cold Rolled Steel for Delivery or Local Pickup).

and finally, Pacific Fasteners (http://www.pacificfasteners.com/)has the cheapest silicon bronze screws and bolts I know of that doesn't involve a shipping fee for me. And I own only a bicycle and a cargo trailer. If it's more than 75 pounds, I generally need to rent a pickup or have it delivered.

You'll notice that precisely zero of these places have the word "marine" in their name. Noah's is fine, but if you want to keep buying the better sort of rum, immerse yourself in the materials science to understand the difference between HDPE and EPDM plastics (say), and GO INDUSTRIAL. I didn't even take shop in high school, but now I know what I need for refits and where to acquire the right materials at a fraction of "marine" prices.

Good luck, and I hope this helps.
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Hi:

Thank you guys for the additional suggestions. I'll check them out.

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... immerse yourself in the materials science to understand the difference between HDPE and EPDM plastics ...
High-Density PolyEthylene is a rigid plastic.
Ethylene-Propylene-Diene Monomer is a flexible (synthetic) rubber.

They’re not generally interchangeable.
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My point was that if you are not usefully GordMay, you should generally familiarize yourself with the range of terms customary to the industrial materials world. I could have mentioned all the different gasket materials, some of which will be eaten away by ethanol additive, others not, but I thought I would give two four-letter acronyms as a start point. I use HDPE for water tanks and EPDM as gasketing between my steel pilothouse sidewall flange and the aluminum roof over it. Keeps the water out and the electricity in.

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