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Old 25-06-2010, 10:57   #16
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i hope there is no such thing as teak chain plates unless it is on models!!!????
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Old 25-06-2010, 10:59   #17
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i hope there is no such thing as teak chain plates unless it is on models!!!????
that is correct. making a joke, complete with smiley. I was assuming that everyone would know that proper chainplates should be built of mahogany.
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Old 25-06-2010, 20:45   #19
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If you are worring about the stainless fatiguing, use 17-4 PH stainless. Its over 3 times stronger than 300 series stainless. It can be a little expensive but it is nothing compaired to the price of your rig. When and if I redo my chainplates that is what I'll do it with. Besides, it will be cheaper than silicon/bronze or aluminium/silicon/bronze by far.
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If you are worring about the stainless fatiguing, use 17-4 PH stainless. Its over 3 times stronger than 300 series stainless.
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I found17-4 PH stainless on mcmaster.com. it's slightly more than twice as expensive thaan 316. They also have carbon fiber which is cheaper and kind of tempting too.


Do you have to heat-treat 17-4 PH to get the maximum strength?
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Old 26-06-2010, 02:02   #21
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

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Where on "earth" are you located?

'Alaska Copper and Brass' here in Seattle.
My price inquiry to Alaska Copper and Brass came back: "...We only stock round rod in the Silicon Bronze material...." It was suggested I use Silicon Bronze by someone that actually knows what he is talking about"
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

The only have silicon bronze (the preferred bronze alloy for chain plates) in round rod, the only bar they have is aluminum bronze, the same alloy Port Townsend Foundry uses for making chain plates...but that doesn't sell me on it.

That said thier price for 1.5" wide x .375" thick x 26" is $42.99 and I need 6 that size.
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Old 22-10-2011, 14:31   #24
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

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I use Silicon Bronze by someone that actually knows what he is talking about"
They only sell metal from behind a desk and the people are in their 30's & 40's, some being women.

I guess being a Machinist for 45 years, working in the boat, aerospace and valve industry means nothing.

Let me make a call...... Oops, on Monday
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

What I said about Aluminum Bronze I double check and it was recommended for chain plates
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

As I stated in your other thread >>>> Best Material for Chainplates ?
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

Since you appear to be in Pago Pago your best source may be South in New Zealand.
I replaced my rigging hardware with AB2, aluminium bronze and I am very happy with it. After 7 years there is no discoloration. My stainless chain plates were suffering from severe crevice corrosion; I would have preffered to replace with AB2, but since the chain plates were internal, and for economical reasons, I chose galvanized steel; followed by a light sand blasting; followed by an epoxy primer and then a polyurethane top coat.
For information on Al bronze contact John Abbot at Montrose Foundry in Auckland; a good guy to deal with and very knowlegable.
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

Delmarrey, is C954 Aluminum Bronze the right aluminum bronze alloy for chainplates?? Order Bronze 954 Rectangle in Small Quantities at OnlineMetals.com

Where in Seattle can I get chainplates fabricated??
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Re: Where to Find Bronze Flat Bar for Chainplates ?

In Seattle I would try Miller and Miller boat yard on Commodore Way 206 285 5958.
Also there is a machine shop on Leary Way and NW 46th Street
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Delmarrey, is C954 Aluminum Bronze the right aluminum bronze alloy for chainplates?? Order Bronze 954 Rectangle in Small Quantities at OnlineMetals.com

Where in Seattle can I get chainplates fabricated??
I would imagine so........ They can be heat treated also.

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Bronze Family: Aluminum Bronze
Solids: 1/2" to 9" OD
Tubes: 1 1/8" to 9" OD
Rectangles: Up to 15" wide
Type: Brass, bronze or copper alloy
Shape/Form: Semi-finished; mill stock or near net shapes; anode; bar stock; billet/bloom; squares; hex; plate; profile or structural shape; flats/rectangular bar
Benefits: Higher strength, tarnish resistant, good anti-frictional characteristics, low rates of scaling and corrosion in atmospheric conditions, resistant to corrosion in sea water, low oxidation rates at higher temperatures, low reactivity with sulfurous compounds and other exhaust products of combustion, copper component of alloy prevents colonization by marine organisms including algae, lichens barnacles and mussels
Alloy: C95400 Aluminum Bronze Spec Sheet - Concast Metals

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