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02-08-2017, 12:36
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Falmouth
Boat: Summer Twins 25
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Wheel House or Spray Hood
I'm not sure what way to go, I like the idea of building a Wheel House on my Heavenly Twins.
I like the Wheel House as it would give me an extra room and keep me dry in bad weather.
What I'm worried about is stability in bad weather and weight issues. I'm interested in any pros and cons you might have.
I'm hoping to do some off shore passages but will be mostly Coastal.
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02-08-2017, 13:36
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
I would not go for the full enclosure, partly because of the weight, but if you ever want to go somewhere warm, it would be pretty stifling.
However, if you enjoy sailing in inclement weather, and are going to pretty much stay around Great Britain, then the enclosure might make the difference, and you would sail more. Foam sandwich construction is pretty light, so maybe.....
Marine hooding, of which spray dodgers are made, has a limited life span, and it shrinks a bit over time, as it loses plasticizers to the atmosphere. The labour is dear, and it will quite possibly be history in 8 yrs, 5 + , in the tropics.
Good luck with it.
Ann
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02-08-2017, 13:52
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Location: Washington State
Boat: Colvin, Saugeen Witch (Aluminum), 34'
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
If you do go for the full enclosure, consider making it very, very light and be sure and retain your present watertight hatches in case all or part of the house is carried away during your once in a lifetime storm.
Steve
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02-08-2017, 14:17
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Canada
Boat: T37
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
Why not a full canvas enclosure. We're on our second one on our second boat in Alaska and wouldn't bother going to a hard enclosure or dodger. With removalable panel you can customize the enclosure to the weather. I.e completely miserable raining sideways = full; overcast no wind or light drizzle while powering = full top open sides; hot and sunny = open it all up. Sides are the first to go, then the mid connector, then the Bimini folds back and the cockpit is open with a windbreak at the back. Never been nice enough up here long enough to warrant taking everything off and we'll have to move the boat to see those conditions but it will be an easy conversion when that happens.
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03-08-2017, 08:53
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Location: Manila, California
Boat: Cape George pilothouse 36 and a Cape Dory 25
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
I cannot speak about the stability of what we call pilothouses in the excolonies on multihulls. But on my monohull it has been a really nice thing. We cruise in hot areas and the pilothouse is no hotter than the rest of the cabin. But in inclement weather and high seas it is sometimes surreal to watch the sea from a warm comfortable place. It has definitely made cruising better for my wife.
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03-08-2017, 09:15
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
Had you considered a hard top and curtains.
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03-08-2017, 11:27
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vienna, Austria
Boat: Vagabond 47
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
experience with both - wheelhous looks ugly but so glad to have it on my own boat
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03-08-2017, 12:58
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
Go for a hard dodger, with one or two of the "windows" being an opening deck hatch, with a removable lid. Along with a cabriolet (canvas) top & enclosure.
You can build a hard dodger for about the same weight as a soft one, if it's done right. Given that carbon fiber can be found reasonably priced anymore, & you don't need much of it. Plus cores are of course super light weight. And it's much easier to add important features to an already rigid structure, such as hand holds.
To me, the nicest part though, is to be able to have hard, acrylic, windows. As the visibility through them tends to be much much better than the soft stuff, especially given what happens as the soft stuff ages, or when it isn't drum tight.
And I know that it's perhaps a bit too late to bring this up, but you've already got windage issues. So anything you can do to avoid making them worse is probably wise. Ergo, go for an aerodynamic design if you can. Aerodynamic from when the wind's dead ahead, as well as when beating.
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03-08-2017, 14:10
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Location: Solent, England
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
Phil, I think you could go either way. This is an interesting thread on hard top examples:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ps-175159.html
For reference Ann is correct, our sprayhood has lasted 8 years and has just been re-stitched so hopefully should be good for another 3-4 years in the UK weather. Its permanently rigged, however, in good conditions its nice to be able to drop it down quickly.
Pete
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03-08-2017, 15:37
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Adelaide
Boat: Adams 31 aft cockpit
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
My mono wont heave-to with the dodger up - or more to the point the windage of the dodger back there behind the mast causes the boat to tack through even a back-sheeted genoa (with no main sail up at all). Took me a little while to figure what was going on. Not safe at all, to be unable to heave-to imho.
Not sure if that is an issue with multis, but it precludes a hard dodger for me.
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04-08-2017, 21:12
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Wheel House or Spray Hood
Or this may meet some of the need.
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05-08-2017, 06:59
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Allegan, Mi
Boat: 1968 Columbia 50
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondBase
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I prefer this for the pirate infested waters of Lake Michigan..
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05-08-2017, 10:47
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Boat: Summer Twins 25
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Re: Wheel House or Spray Hood
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