Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 24-03-2013, 12:24   #16
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto
Boat: Sandpiper 565
Posts: 2,942
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

In fairness, that first boat is in "sailing" mode, not "solar charging" mode. With sails down and sun on the stern, there probably enough exposed panels.

But... yeah. Too much stuff aloft.
__________________

__________________
Lake-Effect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-03-2013, 14:05   #17
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,827
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

Look again. Radar, two wind generators, FIVE antennas are all causing shade.
The only benefit for that boat when anchored is ONE solar panel won't be shaded by the main.

Amorphous panels can be shaded 50% and give out 50% of the power (which is very little in the first place) whereas mono and poly crystalline panels put out a lot more, but are severely compromised with even a little shading.

Up high and aft is usually the best place for panels, but not with junk above it.

Steve
__________________

__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-03-2013, 17:56   #18
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
pirate Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

I've seen this behavior. It's called late-stage three foot itis. There just isn't enough room! The last, and usually fatal stage, is the full-cockpit enclosure indicating the owner will next be looking for a trawler.
__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-03-2013, 18:22   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 945
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

I LOVE stormy weather!!! That is my idea of one of my dream boats.. Nice share!!!
__________________
shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-03-2013, 20:38   #20
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,827
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow View Post
I LOVE stormy weather!!! That is my idea of one of my dream boats.. Nice share!!!
You won't like the sound at 2 AM when you are SURE you must be dragging anchor because of the noise.
Even if it's well damped, you will hear it and get tensed up.
Solar panels are relatively quiet.
And no, I don't own a solar panel company, I've just already been through this excercise.

Steve
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-03-2013, 21:16   #21
Registered User
 
Sailtexas's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
Boat: Lord Nelson 41' Cutter
Posts: 93
Images: 4
Send a message via Skype™ to Sailtexas
Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
I've seen boats like this in real life several times, but as a double page photo spread in a well known sailing magazine portrayed as how to do it? Really?

This is why so many people say, "Solar Doesn't Work".

Of course it doesn't when there's a ton of other stuff ABOVE IT !

Last summer in the Canadian Gulf Islands, I saw a Lord Nelson 41 with a very well constructed arch/bimini, but with nearly the identical setup above the panels...
Argh.
That's not a Lord Nelson 41
__________________
Regards,

Dan
s/v Orion
Sailtexas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 00:37   #22
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,016
Images: 4
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

What a nightmare. All that clutter. See it too often. Probably should have bought a much bigger boat. Given such a junk oriented lifestyle I would guess the solar panels are simply a 'green' political statement. Yachts like that run their gensets for hours a day. Ya know, freezer with steaks and ice cream, air con for their weak constitutions, etc, etc. What a nightmare of a lifestyle.
__________________
daddle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 01:08   #23
Registered User
 
djaustralia's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: central coast, Tasmania
Boat: 16ft Hartley Flareline
Posts: 55
Send a message via MSN to djaustralia
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

GO GO gadget CLUTTER!
__________________
djaustralia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 01:13   #24
Registered User
 
djaustralia's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: central coast, Tasmania
Boat: 16ft Hartley Flareline
Posts: 55
Send a message via MSN to djaustralia
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
Look again. Radar, two wind generators, FIVE antennas are all causing shade.
The only benefit for that boat when anchored is ONE solar panel won't be shaded by the main.

Amorphous panels can be shaded 50% and give out 50% of the power (which is very little in the first place) whereas mono and poly crystalline panels put out a lot more, but are severely compromised with even a little shading.

Up high and aft is usually the best place for panels, but not with junk above it.

Steve
I don't think the MAIN would be raised while anchored!
__________________
djaustralia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 01:15   #25
Registered User
 
djaustralia's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: central coast, Tasmania
Boat: 16ft Hartley Flareline
Posts: 55
Send a message via MSN to djaustralia
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailtexas View Post
That's not a Lord Nelson 41
He said he "saw one" last summer. He didn't say the photographed yacht was a nelson.
__________________
djaustralia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 04:36   #26
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 9,311
Images: 75
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

he is obviously not cruising the med otherwise he would have a passerelle boarding ladder as well hanging off the back
__________________
my catamaran building project updates http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...36#post2502136
atoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-03-2013, 10:10   #27
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,827
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailtexas View Post
That's not a Lord Nelson 41
Read my post again, noting the italics below.

Last summer in the Canadian Gulf Islands, I saw a Lord Nelson 41 with a very well constructed arch/bimini, but with nearly the identical setup above the panels...

Steve
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-03-2013, 07:34   #28
Registered User
 
Sailtexas's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sugar Land, Texas
Boat: Lord Nelson 41' Cutter
Posts: 93
Images: 4
Send a message via Skype™ to Sailtexas
Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
Read my post again, noting the italics below.

Last summer in the Canadian Gulf Islands, I saw a Lord Nelson 41 with a very well constructed arch/bimini, but with nearly the identical setup above the panels...

Steve
I missed that. I wondered why you wouldn't recognize a LN having owned one! Along the same lines when I bought my LN there was a nice stuffed leather office chair with armrests installed (sans base of course) at the helm by the previous owner! I'll post a photo when I find it. Thanks for the correction amigo : )
__________________

__________________
Regards,

Dan
s/v Orion
Sailtexas is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:58.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.