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Old 12-08-2014, 09:09   #1
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what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

maybe my title is a bit misleading...

i am about to tackle galley and head counter tops and was thinking of custom fabricating them with resin.

my idea is building a mold (nice rounded edges, slight taper to the sink etc) and then pouring 1/4" of resin and then laying it up till it is about 3/4" before sanding and spraying (think about how they make concrete counters for residential / commercial applications).

i know this will work aesthetically and will be strong enough but i dont know how to predict durability... what happens when you drop a knife or pan on 3/4" of glass? can you put a hot pan / spill boiling water on it? i would use cutting boards etc but we all know things happen.

i am thinking that it is a better application for the head but the expense (time / effort) cant be justified unless i do both the head and galley.

thoughts?

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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

Should be good for 22 hollow points, but not much more.

Probably be good for refurbishing anchors, and maybe the yanmar too.



You know with your title you ask for this...lol
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

If you do make a resin countertop, post a photo showing us the results.

Being practical, I suggest making a test section (square foot) and then use it to test durability with cutting implements used on it and hot pans (see if stuff cuts or marks or sticks or burns it). I would do that prior to major project work using the stuff.
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

Seems like a ton of work when corian is easy, durable and realitivity. Cheap
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Should be good for 22 hollow points, but not much more.

Probably be good for refurbishing anchors, and maybe the yanmar too.



You know with your title you ask for this...lol
::adjusts halo:: i have no idea what you mean!
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

there is easy and then there is.. well... this!
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

Seriously 3/4" of GRP The flak jacket I wore in Belfast only had composite plates that were 3/8" thick. What are you planning to install on the opposite side to balance the yacht?

The real problem is that gelcoat or resin isn't that tough and will scratch with use.


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Seriously 3/4" of GRP The flak jacket I wore in Belfast only had composite plates that were 3/8" thick. What are you planning to install on the opposite side to balance the yacht?

The real problem is that gelcoat or resin isn't that tough and will scratch with use.


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that begs 2 questions...

1. how thick would it need to be (the D8s will be positioned to keep her balanced)

2. is there some type of an additive that will color the resin and reduce the risk / visibility of surface scratches?

the color in concrete work comes from powders and sometimes polished stones added to the concrete prior to be poured, cured and polished. maybe i should just expand the house battery bank and do it in concrete since i know what i am doing there. :P

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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

another question... would 105 / 209 add any strength?

i would prefer to not pay for 105 but if it cures with a harder surface than lam res, it would be money well spent.

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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

This is the gun you need to use as an anchor:



But only if you use a monohull, otherwise, I'd use this one:



For a countertop, resin that thick will crack, unless its fiberglass reinforced.
And then concrete doesn't seem so heavy.
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

Yes, 3/4" resin without fiberglass reinforcement is gonna crack. It's also gonna scratch. It's also gonna stain.

You may be able to find some odd lots or leftovers of corian at the local HD or something. Who cares if it doesn't match. Remember, you were gonna use poured resin so you can't be too choosy.
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

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another question... would 105 / 209 add any strength?

i would prefer to not pay for 105 but if it cures with a harder surface than lam res, it would be money well spent.

minaret... you out there somewhere?

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+1 for Corian. I have done some fiberglass galleys, and it is not for the uninitiated. That is a project which will grow on you, and take much more than expected of your time. Corian is easy to work with, attractive, durable, and you can polish scratches out of it. Also comes in a whole lot of different finishes. Save yourself some pain, and use countertop stuff for countertops.
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

seems the decision is clear...

wanna talk about guns and anchors now?

thanks.

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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

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seems the decision is clear...

wanna talk about guns and anchors now?

thanks.

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How about shooting anchors out of a gun, or anchors that shoot bullets, or anchors that you can hide a gun in......ohhhhh see now you got me all excited. These will solve so many problems. Lets start some R&D
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Re: what gun should i use as an anchor while deciding between a mono and cat?

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+1 for Corian. I have done some fiberglass galleys, and it is not for the uninitiated. That is a project which will grow on you, and take much more than expected of your time. Corian is easy to work with, attractive, durable, and you can polish scratches out of it. Also comes in a whole lot of different finishes. Save yourself some pain, and use countertop stuff for countertops.
+2 for Corian. I bought some 1/2" rems to do my galley sink and bath. It can be cut with a jigsaw, edged with a router and even glued together with epoxy.

http://solidsurface.com/sheet-materi...FQOHaQodkxcAVw

Mine was so narrow at the edges that I did use a 1/2" ply board for support.
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