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Old 21-01-2015, 10:22   #1
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Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

The manual bilge pump is giving me some issues. For some reason the part of the pump that you insert the handle in will no longer accept the handle other than maybe 3/4". For some reason the plastic liner has expanded so my question is what is the best way to deal with this. Should I drill the plastic liner out enough to accept the handle? (pretty tough task without removing everything and using a drill press the hole would likely be off center) Could I remove the plastic liner and press in a new one that would properly fit the handle? Ideas and feedback appreciated.
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Old 21-01-2015, 11:04   #2
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

The pump, including the socket for the handle is aluminum. And when aluminum corrodes, it expands, ergo it's likely the cause for the compressed plastic sleeve.
If such is the case, & you absolutely can't take the pump out of service, then lightly sand the inside of the plastic sleeve until the handle fits. Or get/make a handle to fit, out of wood, G10, fiberglass rod etc.

If you can get by without the pump for a bit, & corrosion is the issue, then it'd make sense to fully dis-assemble things. Inspect them, & if everything still looks okay (no cracks or signs of impending failure), then have the hole re-machined to spec. Allowing for enough tolerance to re-powder coat things, & still be able to fit a new bushing & handle into the socket.
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

I used the Whale 10 as my toilet pump (I have a LAVAC). I thought it would be superior to the plastic Henderson that came with the toilet. I was wrong. It eventually deteriorates from the saltwater.
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Seems endemic to this Whale 10 pump.sell it and find one that will not fail as time passes.
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

Simplest way will to be to order a new one from whale. Should not be to expensive as it is only a small alloy casting. Excellent pump other wise, I have used one 'in anger' and they really shift water and will outstrip many med sized impeller pumps.
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

If you are looking for a solid bilge pump, get the Edson. One gallon per stroke.

http://www.edsonmarine.com/newproducts/pump_kit.php
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The manual bilge pump is giving me some issues. For some reason the part of the pump that you insert the handle in will no longer accept the handle other than maybe 3/4". For some reason the plastic liner has expanded so my question is what is the best way to deal with this. Should I drill the plastic liner out enough to accept the handle? (pretty tough task without removing everything and using a drill press the hole would likely be off center) Could I remove the plastic liner and press in a new one that would properly fit the handle? Ideas and feedback appreciated.
It is usually easy to remove the pump. You can get a kit to replace the rubber parts of the pump. It is a critical safety item so get a kit and have peace of mind.While you have it out clear the slot where the handle goes in. Probably a bit of salt or corrosion.
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

The "plastic liner" is an epoxy sealer coat applied to the entire pump body. Once it deteriorates, which is going to happen unless you are using it in fresh water, is not repairable. This is experience talking here. Too bad, since I liked the robustness of the original casting. Given the amount of use a manual bilge pump gets (unless you are using it for the Lavac toilet pump), it's probably more cost effective to use an all-plastic Henderson, or the Whale Guzzlers. You can make limited repairs to the Whale 10, but why? A bilge pump is too critical for saving money on.
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

Just rebuild the pump or replace it, do you want to rely on a possibly non working pump when you really need it to work?
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The "plastic liner" is an epoxy sealer coat applied to the entire pump body. Once it deteriorates, which is going to happen unless you are using it in fresh water, is not repairable. This is experience talking here. Too bad, since I liked the robustness of the original casting. Given the amount of use a manual bilge pump gets (unless you are using it for the Lavac toilet pump), it's probably more cost effective to use an all-plastic Henderson, or the Whale Guzzlers. You can make limited repairs to the Whale 10, but why? A bilge pump is too critical for saving money on.




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Thanks for all the feedback, Much appreciated!
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Re: Whale Gusher 10 advice needed

FWIW, we've had several of these pumps over the years, and every damn one has had corrosion problems. The epoxy (?) coating breaks down and the evil white powder starts appearing. Most often in ours in the area where the flapper valves seat, but various other places as well. Never found an effective way to repair, so IMO, lousy design for an emergency related device. We now use plastic (groan) body pumps... mostly never get used, so wearing out ain't a big deal!

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