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Old 26-03-2012, 04:17   #16
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Waxing is hard work. Set up scaffolds... no going up and down ladders. Use a wax such as Collinite 870... easy on and easy off. Use a cleaner first (Collinite 920). There are other similar products. If you do it annually it's a one day job for a 36-40' sail boat. Wear sun protection and work on the shady side of the hull. Shiva's gelcoat is 26 years old and looks new each spring at launch.

Waxing... a necessary evil.
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Old 26-03-2012, 04:50   #17
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If you wear prescription glasses - take them off and the boat will look fine.

for those with 20/20 vision just move back 10 feet.
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Old 26-03-2012, 05:02   #18
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thats cheating!
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Old 26-03-2012, 08:11   #19
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+2 on Nigel1. Much more comfortable and the only place you can fall into is [maybe dirty] water. Just gotta find perfectly calm water

Since the boat is already on the hard, it's actually MUCH faster to do from a scaffold than from the dock. No bending over and hanging off the edge of the dock to get the waterline. For most boats I set up two scaffolds, one with a high plank and one with a low. That makes it so you can go down a side with two workers and never have to stop to adjust plank heights. With proper equipment most boats are a half day job for a crew of two, if you are just waxing. It's really easy work, all by hand so no heavy machine to wrestle. And it looks great when you're done. Very satisfying to me. Use a good quality paste wax and stay away from modern liquid waxes, they suck.
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Old 26-03-2012, 08:24   #20
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Hire people to do the things you hate...it will make you happier.

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Bungee .... A few years ago I read about somebody attaching the buffer to a bungee on a halyard. I have not tried this but the logic is that you set the level to be about mid way down the hull reducing the fatigue on arms and back - anybody try this?
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Old 26-03-2012, 09:23   #22
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I still like to spred my Retirement money around, so I hire someone to do this for me !! Of course as I said above it only cost me 30 bucks for the whole job,from the waterline to the top of the mast if ya have one ! just saying even, spanish speaking folk have to work ya know !!
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I still like to spred my Retirement money around, so I hire someone to do this for me !! Of course as I said above it only cost me 30 bucks for the whole job,from the waterline to the top of the mast if ya have one ! just saying even, spanish speaking folk have to work ya know !!

And you feel OK with paying someone $30 for a days work here in America? I sure as hell wouldn't. That's just wrong. Your redneck is showing.
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Old 26-03-2012, 10:14   #24
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And you feel OK with paying someone $30 for a days work here in America? I sure as hell wouldn't. That's just wrong. Your redneck is showing.
i DONT AGREE , if this is the price both partys agree on, than its fair,here in south Florida its hard to get even the Mexician workers to work for less than $10 an hour, if I could I would, if I dont want to pay this I do it myself

--- I pay about $20 a day per person (in N. africa) and the folks are more than happy to get this- it takes 80 hours to do mine right
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i DONT AGREE , if this is the price both partys agree on, than its fair,here in south Florida its hard to get even the Mexician workers to work for less than $10 an hour, if I could I would, if I dont want to pay this I do it myself

--- I pay about $20 a day per person (in N. africa) and the folks are more than happy to get this- it takes 80 hours to do mine right

If I was in N. Africa I would do the same-but here in America these migrant laborers are shopping for their food at the same stores and prices as we are. Their expenses are just as high as ours, in the same economy. Paying a living wage is the least you can do. I couldn't sleep at night if I paid someone else to do work at a lower daily rate than my hourly rate. But I know I'm in the minority on that.
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Down the Bayou there is a LARGE, may we say border crossing population, and waxing is done in the water or out for way less then ya can believe!! and they do it by Hand !! Just outstanding shine and plenty wax lasts a Long time !! maybe some of you folks need to vist the the bayou Country along the ICW !! just a thought
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Bungee .... A few years ago I read about somebody attaching the buffer to a bungee on a halyard. I have not tried this but the logic is that you set the level to be about mid way down the hull reducing the fatigue on arms and back - anybody try this?
Tried it with bungee to halyard, too awkward, especially the further aft I got.
Settled for 2 x 2 foot bungees with snap hookls each end. For the top half of the hull, use one bungee snapped on to upper guardrail, and for the lower half, add the 2nd bungee-Really does help
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waxing is something that was invented to prevent or postpone sailing away from the slip......
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Turns out waxing is a good workout that stays around for a few days. At least as good as sanding and painting the bottom, but without the fumes.

Unfortunately beer doesn't appear to cure the issue!
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And you feel OK with paying someone $30 for a days work here in America? I sure as hell wouldn't. That's just wrong. Your redneck is showing.
You are so uninformed.

When you pay more than $30 per day in a country that the average wage is $30 per day you are superimposing your prejudices on people of a country and on a society that is not yours.

How would you like it if rich Russians did the same thing where you live and did it to a few of your friends. Would you appreciate it? Would you like the Russians? Would you think the Russians are good people?

The answer is NO, you would resent them. The US and other western countries have a difficult time getting along with the rest of the world and it is attitudes like yours that make matters worse.

We need to understand other cultures, not try to change them to be like us!

When will we all learn?

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