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Old 20-12-2015, 00:20   #16
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

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Butyl oozes in the tropics.
It does a little but still does the job.

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Old 20-12-2015, 00:22   #17
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I don't think silicon has been used in 'boobies' for many years. I suppose 'boobies' is your word because not aloud to say 'titties' on CF

I've seen Butyl tape being used in the Followtheboat video's and it looks great. But I've not been able to find any Butyl in Australia. I generally used marine Silka but I'd like to get some Butyl to try as it looks much cleaner.
Try tapesonline.com.au

They sell a tape for pond and dam liners that works ok. Glazing butyl is probably the best stuff but it is hard to track down.

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Old 20-12-2015, 00:23   #18
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I found mine here.. Buy Adhesive Tapes - Wholesale and Single Roll Sticky Tapes
Same place as I bought my Denso tape.

May not be the best Butyl in the world but the stuff ex US was $$$$$$

Only prob I have had is getting a neat and tidy clean edge.
Do-uh! Just seen you recommended the some Web store!

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Old 20-12-2015, 00:24   #19
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

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Butyl oozes in the tropics.

I put a bead of 4000 UV around the outer edge of what I am sealing. Keeps the butyl in and pretty much eliminates butyl streaking. I have had to touch up or replace the caulk over time but have yet to have to remove the hardware and rebed anything sealed with butyl...
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Old 20-12-2015, 00:59   #20
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

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I found mine here.. Buy Adhesive Tapes - Wholesale and Single Roll Sticky Tapes
Same place as I bought my Denso tape.

May not be the best Butyl in the world but the stuff ex US was $$$$$$

Only prob I have had is getting a neat and tidy clean edge.
yeah I got my Denso tape from there too. But I can't see any Butyl tape in the list?
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yeah I got my Denso tape from there too. But I can't see any Butyl tape in the list?
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

I use Butyl a lot. The key for me is apply, tighten, wait 24 hours, tighten, wait 24 hours, tighten again. I use a plastic card to remove the excess that squeezes out, and dab around with a ball of the excess to get the little bits. If you can't find it at a window shop, try rv dealers. They use it to bed windows in RV's.
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Old 20-12-2015, 02:13   #23
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

Butyl is the best for deck hardware, super easy to use, a guy going by the name "Maine sail" over on sailnet has been our go to for info on boat "how to" I highly recommend him as a resource, also sells the best grade butyl available at a good price.
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

Silicone should have no place on deck or hull of a boat!

If you ever want to repaint it is a real pain.
Even with silicone remover you can hardly remove all traces of it.If you get a tiny spec on your sander and rub it onto the surfaces to be painted you will have pinholes all over in the paintwork.

Use anything but silicone on hull and deck!

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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

Butyl tape is used to bed auto windshields so should be available worldwide from auto supply places.
Maine Sail buytl is top quality if you can get it.
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

Thanks to everyone for their response. I will continue down the road of using butyl to rebel deck hw. I anticipated the negative response to silicone and wasn't disappointed by the opinions. One of the most interesting aspects of my research was the opinion of the manufacturer: use marine grade silicone for all above the waterline hw bedding. It was this opinion that led to my post since I wasn't comfortable with such a recommendation.
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

just FYI . . . for ports (and similar) what you really want to use is 3m VHB tape.

You can get it on amazon and other places.

It is perhaps the cleanest, strongest and easiest to use bonding/sealing material available
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Good quality butyl ***Buy Bed-It Butyl Tape*** Photo Gallery by Compass Marine How To at pbase.com
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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

Yes, the VHB tape is excellent and easy. There is a primer specifically for it that most using VHB never hear about. The primer increases the holding power significantly - particularly on porous or less than contaminated surfaces.

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Re: Use of butyl tape to bed hardware to deck

I'm a 5200 guy with hopes to transition to a butyl tape user. So much is related to the personal skills that are developed over time.

I never damage my gel coat or have difficulty removing my 5200 because I never pry off a bedded piece. I use the garrote tactic for removal with a thin wire or sometimes even dental floss. Sometimes I use a fillet knife. Once exposed, a sharp blade can shave off the remaining 5200. I'm good with the potential smears just by having acetone & wipes ready along the use of latex gloves.

I've heard great accounts of success with butyl tape, but I need to gain some skills. During my one attempt with a roll of butyl tape having a protective strip to be pulled off, I failed miserably. I was trying to bed a series of base pads for a handrail. I attempted to remove the backing tape to cut sections and ended with an evil coiled black snake that I had to take to the trash. I know I can do better by removing smaller amounts of the tape later in the process, but once you've faced the Black Mamba it takes some courage to bring it back out of the safe locker where mine is coiled and securely bound.
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