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Old 13-07-2014, 11:07   #1
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Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

I was looking to make the worlds best, cheapest deck cleaner. What should I mix up?

I have perfection and kiwi grip on there now. Teak cockpit benches. Teak toe rails.

Does tsp work well with some jungle jake, or laundry soap?

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Old 13-07-2014, 11:12   #2
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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

TSP is superb for deck cleaning, you don't need anything else (laundry soap used to have it in it I think) Just spronkly on the power form and scrub. However, TSP is an environmental no no... and definitely wear gloves! Don't ask how I know that.. but the next 24 hours were painful....
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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

I was hoping to have a cleaner that you can use barefoot for everyday use in a spray bottle and a hand scrub. Clean one side deck, tack and clean the other sort of stuff.




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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

Most serious cleaners are environmentally unfriendly. I'll be interested to see if someone comes up with something good--and can document that it's not so bad, environmentally.

Plain water will take off the loose dirt. An old toothbrush and a little baking soda will do a pretty good job on bird poop. Grease and oil borne stains are difficult.

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Most serious cleaners are environmentally unfriendly. I'll be interested to see if someone comes up with something good--and can document that it's not so bad, environmentally.

Plain water will take off the loose dirt. An old toothbrush and a little baking soda will do a pretty good job on bird poop. Grease and oil borne stains are difficult.

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Try adding a little borax (either equal parts or 2:1 borax/baking soda) , and it will be much better on mildew and still low-impact. Additionally, it will not be as alkaline and will be more user friendly, though still too high-pH for barefoot use.
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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

Isn't TSP that stuff normally found in the medical cabinet for cuts and stuff?

Not sure if its available around the world but Traffic Film Remover (TFR) is used by truckers use to clean the muck, dead bugs and grime off there trucks. Its cheap because they won't pay posh prices for stuff that smells nice.

Cheap and strong stuff, don't use neat with bare skin

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Traffic-Film.../dp/B001T6XJGG

If I know it is going to rain (a sure bet in the UK) then I sprinkle washing powder lightly on the decks and leave the boat alone. Next visit the boat is gleaming.

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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

It's not something I created but I like Roll Off. The bottle at least claims to be environmentally friendly. It needs to be diluted further for painted surfaces.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ct.do?pid=2338

I use it on all sorts of things.

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Isn't TSP that stuff normally found in the medical cabinet for cuts and stuff?


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Nope, Tri Sodium Phosphate is a very strong cleaning agent/degreaser... definitely not advised for cuts, or even getting on your skin at all!

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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

I started using TSP in the dishwasher back when the dishwashing soap people unilaterally removed phosphates from their soaps. Notice how sucky your dishes been coming out the last few years if you don't scrub and prewash? I put the phosphates back in.

Local friend here who owns Sail Provo and runs three day charter catamarans told us he uses a mixture of X-14, Dove detergent, and water in a bucket, slop it on, scrub where needed, and rinse His boats are sparkling clean. We're familiar with X-14 in pump spray bottles but he had a gallon of it when I asked him why so much. It's good stuff for instantly eradicating black mildew stains. Active ingredient in it is sodium hypochlorite, which is a pretty strong bleach.

I think I'll try the TSP myself.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Crystals

If you look in the right place (in the UK a friendly pharmacist can usually get some for you) they'll cost you less than $10/lb.

Mix with warm water and a touch of washing-up liquid then brush, sponge, or spray on, leave for fifteen minutes and rinse thoroughly; one pound of oxalic acid crystals should be enough to make you about 5 - 10 gallons of cleaner.

The quart bottle of name-brand teak cleaner you perhaps bought recently for $30, comprises about a tablespoon of oxalic acid, a splash of colouring (red/pink seems a favourite) and lots of water. Similarly the bottle of GRP cleaner you got for another $30 is just the same, though in the UK at least, they prefer to put a blue colouring-agent in those. The clear stainless steel cleaner - another $30 bottle - is oxalic, water and presumably no colouring agent - so why isn't it a dollar cheaper?

One word of warning: If you're planning to buy some and take it abroad by aeroplane to somewhere, do NOT remove the oxalic acid crystals from the manufacturers/suppliers packaging in an effort to save weight/space in you luggage; having done so, I can confirm that explaining the contents of an unmarked polythene bag, full of white powder can prove time consuming.
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TSP stands for tri sodium phosphate.

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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

Bar Keepers Friend, a consumer product that's like Ajax plus TSP. Stainless, KiwiGrip, galley surfaces -- all beautiful with barely any effort.
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If you look in the right place (in the UK a friendly pharmacist can usually get some for you) they'll cost you less than $10/lb.
I get the crystals through an on-line store. Last paid about 17 bucks for five pounds plus a few for shipping.
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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

I think we need to know what you are trying to clean. You don't need anything aggressive like tsp for every day stuff. if you have an old boat that has algae slime crud etc then TSP will help with that initial clean up. It is available in spray cans at the supermarket now. I suppose you could just spray on and wipe off with rags or paper towels and avoid the environmental issues. I think you 'd still need to rinse the deck though just in case. I don't think TSP is environmentally bad due to it chemical composition, but due to it's very high alkaline/PH. It will burn your hands.
It sounds like you are talking about common everyday cleaning, and a number of products can do that. For gel coat there is a cleaner for glass tubs etc called Soft Scrub that works very well. 3M Finesse-it is exceedingly good although expensive.
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Re: Tsp fortified deck cleaner?

Everyday stuff. Dead flies from swater, sun block grime, grease from food, dirt from beach. Just give the new kiwi grip and perfection a real shine.


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