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Old 10-05-2014, 09:41   #76
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Re: To Teak or not to Teak... that is the Question

Not very well. In the same way you won't find an Indian from Mumbai who believes they come from Mumbai (it's still Bombay), you won't find a Burmese worker here who comes from Myanmar. That's all politics anyway, and I don't give a flying hoot about what's in a name. But anyway, here they sell Burmese teak, and market it as Burmese. And the Burmese workers seem to think they're from Burma. I'm going with the locals, mate!


Anyway, back to business. Another criticism I've heard about teak is the heat thing. Now, our boat was in Kuwait for most of its 32 years, we had it for the last ten, and the heat was no match for a decent sunshade while stationary and a bucket of sea water underway.

Come on guys, I'm giving you loads of juicy bones here to grind to bits, and all you can come up with is a name?

Talk me out of this if you can. We have a week till final decision, and were lifting on Friday, inshallah, so need to get it ironed out before then.
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I want it because the dog hairs don't stick to the teak like they do every single damned synthetic surface on the boat.
Pretty hard to argue against you never having to never clean dog hair again. Going direct to the source is about as environmentally friendly as it gets when it comes to raping the rainforest, so I'll give you that.

Try and get some that has been reclaimed from a three hundred year old traditional house if you can, that's the good stuff. Good luck with your project!
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Do it. Let us know how it turns out!
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Do it. Let us know how it turns out!

I will do!
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Going direct to the source is about as environmentally friendly as it gets when it comes to raping the rainforest, so I'll give you that.
Teak is farmed on plantations now - the rainforest isn't being stripped of it anymore. Of course, that brings into question whether these teak and rubber tree plantations are environmentally good…

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We started out with the premise that it's stupid to have wood on the decks of boats. Until.....they just look so darn nice. Still we said it's just not practical. Until......we walked on them. We looked at just going with glass. Until.... we realized we didn't like the look plus more slick. We looked at synthetic teak. Until.....it looked so fake. We found more realistic synthetic teak and even sat some on our patio beside some teak to compare. Until.....we realized it was hotter and it just didn't feel the same.

Reality is we could all just go all glass. No wood. No carpet. No deck covering or floor covering. No tile. Nothing. Cheaper, easier to maintain. But, alas, we went teak, and we have floor coverings inside and we have cherry walls. And, yes, none of this is essential to boating. Nor is the nice mattress. But ultimately it is what gives us pleasure.

Teak just has it's unique and special qualities and until something better comes along I guess we'll continue. The comparison in homes is hardwood versus laminate. Laminate so much less expensive and easier to take care of. Yet, most prefer hardwood.
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I couldn't walk on our teak decks barefoot which also makes inside the boat hotter. Glued teak decks are nice if heat's not a concern. Cork decks may be worth a look also.
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I couldn't walk on our teak decks barefoot which also makes inside the boat hotter. Glued teak decks are nice if heat's not a concern. Cork decks may be worth a look also.
Cork decks make sense in a lot of ways and are being used more. Maybe if we'd been doing this a few years later we would have chosen cork.
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I couldn't walk on our teak decks barefoot which also makes inside the boat hotter. Glued teak decks are nice if heat's not a concern. Cork decks may be worth a look also.
Yeah, mine were very hot.
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I've seen some Marinedeck cork decks that were beautiful. I've never seen Seacork. Definitely have some advantages over teak but also some disadvantages. We didn't choose it for two reasons. One, we just didn't like the color. Two, we really don't know how it's going to hold up long term. Have no reason to believe it won't, but at the same time I haven't seen it yet five years old or ten years old.

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Teak is farmed on plantations now - the rainforest isn't being stripped of it anymore. Of course, that brings into question whether these teak and rubber tree plantations are environmentally good…

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But plantation teak is harvested too young, doesn't compare to the good stuff. Not even close. Loose grain, checks easily, etc.
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Yeah, mine were very hot.
Mine were too. Never again. Burning deck seam stripes into your back right through a thick beach towel is no good.
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I've seen some Marinedeck cork decks that were beautiful. I've never seen Seacork. Definitely have some advantages over teak but also some disadvantages. We didn't choose it for two reasons. One, we just didn't like the color. Two, we really don't know how it's going to hold up long term. Have no reason to believe it won't, but at the same time I haven't seen it yet five years old or ten years old.

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Cork decks are impossible to keep really clean.
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Short haired dogs and cats can be worse than long haired. You get a lot of fine fur everywhere. Now you could get a Basenji.
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