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Old 07-06-2013, 10:56   #1
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Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

I am wondering what are members thoughts on these sail washing and reconditioning services, I am talking about the companies that for a very healthy fee use some kind or proprietary chemical formula that actually coats the sail. I have a piece of marketing material from one company that actually includes a piece of before and after sail material.

I have a friend who actually had this done with his sails and I thought they were new sails. I am wondering if washing the sails in large machines and applying chemicals actually shortens their life I mean every time you wash a piece of clothing your are wearing out the cloth and thread.
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

Chemical protection will NOT prolong the life of any sails. Unlike a wooden deck that can be rendered waterproof thus DELAYING rot and decay, sail's fabrics do not fare as well.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:44   #3
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

Sail washing is a waste of time and money. At most give your sails a hosedown once a year - or go for a sail in the rain.

The only must in this area is that you must never bag your sails for the winter while they are wet lest you find them all black, spotty and mouldy next year.
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

I had both my Genny and mainsail reconditioned here: www.sailcare.com

They came back like new. Re-resined, restitched. I couldn't be happier.
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I had both my Genny and mainsail reconditioned here: www.sailcare.com

They came back like new. Re-resined, restitched. I couldn't be happier.
Same experience here.....I will use them again.
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Same experience here.....I will use them again.

I know of this company, not inexpensive.
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I know of this company, not inexpensive.
Worth every penny, in my opinion.
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

I have seen their work, looked like new sails. I wonder if there is anything to the resin coating?
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Have a look at the Vacuwash process offered by sailmaking support systems in New Hampshire.
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

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I had both my Genny and mainsail reconditioned here: www.sailcare.com

They came back like new. Re-resined, restitched. I couldn't be happier.
Me too, very happy with the results.

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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

G'Day all,

Can anyone explain this "re-resining" process to me? The original "resins" are calendared into the cloth at elevated temperatures and under great pressure from rollers... and it breaks down all too soon. Many modern sailcloths have gone away from this process to improve longevity, btw.

So, how can someone take a sewn up sail, a three dimensional object with lots of hard spots (grommets, cringles, headboards etc) and replace the fill resins? Seems like a sales gimmick to me.

Not arguing about the cleaning and restitching service which can be very useful.

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G'Day all,

Can anyone explain this "re-resining" process to me? The original "resins" are calendared into the cloth at elevated temperatures and under great pressure from rollers... and it breaks down all too soon. Many modern sailcloths have gone away from this process to improve longevity, btw.

So, how can someone take a sewn up sail, a three dimensional object with lots of hard spots (grommets, cringles, headboards etc) and replace the fill resins? Seems like a sales gimmick to me.

Not arguing about the cleaning and restitching service which can be very useful.

Cheers,

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Some info here.
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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

I recently took a jib to our local Hood loft for restitch, new UV cover, and washing and it cost less than Sailcare. No shipping costs were involved, as well.
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Interesting web site, and it sounds good when you say it fast!

I note that if you read the fine print they don't claim that the process improves sail shape, but helps to retain the CURRENT shape of the sail. That is, if you send them an old sail with compromised shape (the usual situation) they will send you back a cleaner, stiffer sail with compromised shape. Maybe worth while... I dunno.

Incidentally, I had a look at their new sails tab. They posted a picture of a boat with a new main that they had built... and to me it didn't look very good at all. I had to wonder why they posted it!

Anyway, thanks for the link, it was interesting.

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Re: Thought on Sail Washing Reconditioning?

I own a Pearson Triton and I had my mailsail reconditioned by Sailcare a couple of years ago. The total cost was about $600+ which included their proprietary cleaning and resining process, replacement of the luff rope, patching up of certain small tears, re-cutting the belly to reduce the camber, and new set of telltales. When I got it back it sails like a totally different sail. I would say it added probably another 5 years to the service life of the sail. Now, if you can buy a new main for around $1,200 to $1,700 is it worth it to have your 10 year old mail reconditioned for $600? I think the answer will depend heavily on the specifics of the sail in question. In my case I would have to either restore the existing main or replacing it as the belly is causing too much weatherhelm. Since I have the tendency to prefer preservation and restoration over disposal and replacement I naturally leaned my decision toward restoration. It's will not be the right answer for every sail or owner.
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